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Auratus Import Quota's...why?
#1
Im wondering how many auratus have come into the US in the last couple years and as our hobby is at its biggest with more new hobbyists why hasnt the need for the imports been cured? hundreds of new hobbyists+ auratus= lots of cb frogs which= unneeded imports.

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#2
I cant help but think if we managed whats here better and didnt keep raping the wild of common frogs perhaps we could get a new nicer or new ones in every once in a while with less issue.

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#3
Here's the Data I have, Mike.

Bear in mind that I did my best to obtain it from a reputable source(I would'nt have retained it otherwise) BUT I can't remember where or when I copied it.

So....I would use this data as a good "first start" in your quest for auratus numbers. Useful still !

D. auratus U.S Imports

Year 2000: 2099

Year 2001: 505

Year 2002: 3834

Year 2003: 4556

Year 2004: 6283

Year 2005: 8442

Year 2006: 8184

Year 2007: 7353

Year 2008: 8730
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Also...as Ed would say....not sure if that number represents "Live" animals only.

Either way, unlike R. reticulatus....THAT'S a lot of frogs above !
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2 Theories:

1. They came in as "filler" frogs for other animal shipments because they were easier to catch than say, pumilio. Hence the greater numbers.

2. They were so low priced that most were sent to "pet stores" and not the hobby, where most died in the store or going to the wrong people - impulse buys.
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Poison Beauties Wrote:I cant help but think if we managed whats here better and didnt keep raping the wild of common frogs .

Michael

Sounds like you're channeling Richard, with that statement...

Spooky huh ?

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Philsuma Wrote:
Poison Beauties Wrote:I cant help but think if we managed whats here better and didnt keep raping the wild of common frogs .

Michael

Sounds like you're channeling Richard, with that statement...

Spooky huh ?

Confusedhock:

Is that where Ive heard this? I need to quit reading the posts of those I dislike. Still though for the most common dart in the hobby and one of the most popular and best beginner darts you would think we would have killed any need for them. Not to say new blood now and then wouldn't be good.
I know the filler issues and theyou have to buy these to get those but I dont see it being more than a time or two of the collectors being left with the frogs and no pay before they quit collecting them and only grabbed up what is needed. There may even be more money in it...who knows. We need to do something. If we cant put a stop to the need of imported auratus we wont fix anything.

It reminds me of all the bags and toats of tigerrats, vine snakes, and wc anaconda at a few shops in FL. Why are we still bringing this stuff in?

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Total gross exports of live Dendrobates auratus from Panama, Nicaragua, and Costa Rica to the United States as per CITES trade database:

2009 – 4781 Panama
2008 – 8730 Panama
2007 – 7330 Panama
2006 – 8175 Panama
2005 – 8410 Panama
2004 – 6251 Panama
2003 – 4550 Panama
2002 – 3800 Panama
2001 – 205 Nicaragua, 145 Panama
2000 – 1956 Nicaragua
1999 – 1711 Nicaragua, 3203 Panama
1998 – 245 Nicaragua, 500 Panama, 30 Costa Rica
1997 – 1350 Nicaragua , 10 Costa Rica
1996 – 6438 Nicaragua, 20 Costa Rica
1995 – 2746 Nicaragua
1994 – 2160 Nicaragua
1993 – 1706 Nicaragua, 30 Costa Rica
1992 – 370 Nicaragua, 40 Costa Rica


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Awsome Donn !

Much better. Thanks.

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Gross Exports from Panama (to all countries) from 2000 - 2009 as per CITES trade database:

2001 - 145
2002 - 3900
2003 - 7250
2004 - 9351
2005 - 9770
2006 - 1918
2007 - 8030
2008 - 9236
2009 - 5081


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#11
Thanks Donn. How there are not more cb auratus for sale than everything else combined I have no clue.

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