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Found my first "in vivarium" froglet
#1
Pretty exciting news when I was taking photos yesterday. I saw out of the corner of my eye a little green sirensis frogets coming out of the brom in their vivarium! Pretty awesome to see! I tried to snag the best photo I could without scaring him. I've never found a froglet in a vivarium before, it is amazing how they can thrive in the little cups of water from broms.

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Figured I'd share Smile
-Brian
Fine Spot Leucs, Bakhuis, Variabilis, Varadero, Fantastica, Green Sirensis
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#2
You always remember your first one ! Magical huh ?
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#3
Awesome Brian!!! How does the size of the froglet compare to other ones you've morphed out?
Jon
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#4
Congrats, Brian!! Smile
Glenn
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#5
Thanks! Yeah, it was pretty neat to see and glad I did!

Rusty_Shackleford Wrote:Awesome Brian!!! How does the size of the froglet compare to other ones you've morphed out?

Seems about on par with the ones I've morphed out outside the vivarium. The vivarium froglet might be a bit smaller, but may be it just seems that way as it is in a large vivarium Wink
-Brian
Fine Spot Leucs, Bakhuis, Variabilis, Varadero, Fantastica, Green Sirensis
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#6
Is it better to rear tads the more natural way in the vivarium and let them do their own thing while keeping an eye on them or pull them and rear them in cups?
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#7
I think it is better to rear them yourself to control the nutrition they recieve and provide them with the best start to this life that they can have. There is nothing natural about being raised in a glass box other than being reared in the small pool of water from a brom.
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frogs are cool Wrote:I think it is better to rear them yourself to control the nutrition they recieve and provide them with the best start to this life that they can have. There is nothing natural about being raised in a glass box other than being reared in the small pool of water from a brom.

Chris I am going to disagree (no offense) IME the frogs I have let grow out in the parents viv (BYH & Auratus) morph out twice as big as the ones I raise myself in cups. Plus it slows the parents breeding down.
My .02.
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#9
Thanks Beth no offense taken. It will slow down breeding but the tads i rear in cups on the diet i provide are the same sive as the ones reared in vivs. I find it interesting that yours are larger but i do not undertand how it is posible with the diet found inside a viv. vs a controlled diet outside the viv. And i understand thats the only way for some frogs to be raised such as the obligate egg feeders. But it still just doesnt add up. Maybe someone can explain it for me.
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Pums different story, will let Glen chime in, he has good success with in viv raised PDF's.
-Beth
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#12
Hi Chris,

I tank raise many Tincs and Leucs in pond areas in my tanks and they do morph out larger. The only reason I can come up with is that there's a constant food source for them to graze on. Algae, biofilms, dead bugs, etc add up to a constant food source. I do not feed them and the tanks are well aged...They don't cannibalize in my tanks either. I see older tads pass by the newest without a thought.

Here's some recent shots of a couple of tads that were near ready to come out of the water. You can see that the rocks are covered in algae, which they munch on constantly.

Powder

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Leuc

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Glenn
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#13
Thanks Glenn I can understand that. My though was on rearing in broms and in containers not so much ponds. In a different thread i had asked if we were under feeding our tads but on that set up they have a constant supply to feed upon. And i think that is what makes large tads and frog-lets. Its almost the same set up i use in my individual containers, they have algae, live plants, bugs,and bio film. I guess the difference is i add a diet i blend with three different macro algae and a high protien fish food. So i guess it is possible to get the same results in viv as i get out of viv rearing. But i still cant see it being better. My tads get large with the set up i use and its almost identical to how yours is in the viv. My oldest tads just have their rear legs so i will have to take photos when they get closer to morphing and post them then. Thanks for the info.
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#14
Thank you everyone for the feedback. I'm learning so much real quick on this site.

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#15
Sweet pics...congrats..I just found a yura froglet this week myself
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