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hutch0203 Wrote:Rich, This does make sense and after reading your last posts about lighting I have been thinking about this. Can you share more of your experience with this and what type of lighting and plants that you are using. i know for breeding you use many film cans but what type of plants do you prefer for darts that don't care for film cans? Thanks Garrick
Garrick,
First I'd like to emphasize that plants do not stimulate breeding. Darts 'care for' anything (pretty much , really) that holds small amounts of non-flowing water. They'll use anything around. Coconut shells, old oil cans, garbage of many varieties.
So, once again, plants are not needed for breeding at all. They are eye pleasing and somewhat help with cleansing and production of O2. None of which are necessary for healthy dart husbandry.
That said, they also serve a purpose for egg laying and some shelter for hiding , so I try to use the ones that like low light and have broad leaves for laying sites. Pepperomia, pothos, wandering jew, ect. Butt ugly as a film can. And very effective.
I use cheap fluorescent lights. T8's and spirals. One 23 watt spiral (a 100 watt incandescent equivalent) for my 90 gallon 2'x 2' x3' vivs. One single T8 on one of my 160 gallons, which in my mind is still a bit too much and will be moved before too long.
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D3monic Wrote:Hmm, if I was just breeding frogs in the basement or some back room of the house somewhere I am sure I would settle for just pothos and a single twisty bulb. (3 of my vivs are light with just that) but all 10 of my vivs are in my Main living room of the house and are as much for visual astetics as homes for dart frogs. Most of my more grown in tanks have a nice balance of lighting and darkness. The top canopy layer of broms blocking out most of light to the bottom layer. Of course the frogs can be found in either sections throughout the day. I'm quite sure that if people looked they'd find quite a few low light, indigenous plants that look nice. Not botanical garden , primped and preened nice, but nice. People are actually stuck in a rut of making the viv look as nice as possible , when the one fact I know is that more than one dart species, from more than one locale does better with very low light .
So , if we want to sacrifice what is known, not speculated upon as better for our frogs for the betterment of plants not found in our darts' natural habitat ...it is a sacrifice made by us against our darts .
If we have broms in a canopy and it''s the area where depositing can be made, it's no surprise to me that they will be found there eventually. What also does not surprise me is that you will see them even more in spots not photoned for broms' color 'needs' if deposit sites are in lesser/no light.
In the wild they don't hang (breed and live) in areas with a "nice balance" , they hang out in the shade, pretty much all the time, with the acception of Black Jeans and of course the random straying.
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Tony Wrote:I'll give it a shot. I don't expect much of a difference with my tincs since they are always out waiting for food, but we'll see if there is any difference in my pumilio, galacts, and auratus. I just removed a tube from each of my fixtures, so my vivs are now lit by a single T8 tube with the exception of my auratus which now have no direct light.
I hear constant calling from my pumilio but they tend to scatter when I walk into the room, except for the El Dorado which may as well be mini tincs. I'll give it a few days and post whether or not I notice a difference under reduced lighting. I'll be very happy if it works, bolder frogs combined with a reduced electric bill is fine by me.
Give it a bit more than just a few days Tony. Report back in a couple weeks with clutches and activity. Unless they go nuts either way sooner.
I know it's not really what many people want to hear (plant sales, light sales, bright dart viewing , showing off plants in vivs, ect, .) but if you are reading what I say just to read what you want to hear...please put me on ignore.
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