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Introduction, not yet started beginner :)
#1
Hi everyone,

I've recently discovered that dart frogs can be kept in a viv at home, not just at the zoo lol, and am doing a lot of research to decide what species to choose, and appropriate setups etc.
I understand so far that tincs, leuks, & auratus are good beginner species, what about azureus? I suppose this is better posted in the beginner question section, so I'll do that there. (I imagine I can find this already asked if I look well.)

I don't know any frog keepers, but would be happy to find out if there are any stores, breeders whatever, in my area that I might be able to learn from, beside the info I'm finding here. I'm in upstate NY, north of Syracuse.

My husband and I have 2 kids who are also excited about the prospect of having these little jewels in our home Big Grin

Lisa
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#2
Welcome to Dart Den Lisa !

Dart Frogs are very enjoyable, and you're correct - easy to keep in one's home.

Tincs, Leucs and auratus are all excellent first frogs.

You're in a good area too. There are a number of upstate NY froggers here. Breeders and Forum members are you best source for animals and help. It won't take long before you read a lot of threads and posts and find some local hobbyists that will get you started.

Please take a look around and if you find an existing thread with something in it that you'd like to comment on or question - just go ahead and tack your post on to the existing thread. Or, if you don't see anything close, always feel free to start your own thread with your questions. We will answer you REAL quick.

Overall, don't be a wallflower....jump in.

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#3
Hi Lisa

Welcome to Dart Den! As Phil said, don't be shy with questions. Enjoy browsing the various posts. To help you get started, you should read through threads on culturing Fruit fly's. This will be the staple food supply of your future frogs. It takes some practice, but you will get the hang of it after a few months. Per your ques, Azureus is a great frog to start with. They are common in the hobby and easy to see in a vivarium.

Are either you or your husband a handy DIY'er ? Vivarium construction is usually the time consuming part of getting started. There so many options to choose on how to build a vivarium, we usually suggest the beginner keep it simple. To help get you started without some costly mistakes, its always best if you can setup the vivarium ahead of buying your frogs. This allows you time to gain experience on things like controlling humidity, plant choice and location, lighting etc... and allows the eco system in the vivarium some time to mature.

Hope this helps you get started

-Regards
Scott
Scott - North Dallas
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#4
Thank you Phil and Scott,

I'll be excited to find people in my area!

I am familiar with culturing FF & other live foods, as I used to breed Bettas (Siamese Fighting Fish). That will come in handy. In fact I have a culture started already because my son is keeping a red eft, (newt) that is small. The culture I got my hands on is D. Hydei though, and it seems that most of the frogs use the D. Melanogaster for their smaller size?
Lisa
In central NY

R. Imitator 'Cainarachi Valley' 2.3.0
R. Imitator 'Cainarachi Valley' Froglets 8 and counting.
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#5
Oh, yes Scott, my hubby is a great DIY, and I manage pretty well too Smile
While I would love to start with a front opening viv, I will probably need to start with my 20L from my betta breeding and use it to start, to save $ for the interior and inhabitants.

Lisa
Lisa
In central NY

R. Imitator 'Cainarachi Valley' 2.3.0
R. Imitator 'Cainarachi Valley' Froglets 8 and counting.
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#6
Your welcome

Great to hear your experienced w FFs. To your ques, the Hydei should work fine for the beginner frogs you listed. If and when you start breeding and are fortunate to get some froglets, the Melanogaster will be needed along w springtails.
Scott - North Dallas
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#7
Here's a good FF sticky to get ya warmed up...

feeder-insects-nutrition-how-to-feed-your-frogs-f22/some-standard-fruit-fly-culturing-questions-t4210.html
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#8
Thanks Phil,

The sticky was great. Would you recommend doing a new culture each week regardless of they type? Melanogaster or Hydei, I want to be sure on the timing.
The springtails are good to put in the viv before putting frogs correct? They help keep it clean?
Lisa
In central NY

R. Imitator 'Cainarachi Valley' 2.3.0
R. Imitator 'Cainarachi Valley' Froglets 8 and counting.
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#9
Even though you have some experience with Hydei...I would still recommend Melanogaster for all the reasons in the sticky.

For one vivarium with a couple - three frogs....yes...I personally would still make one new culture every Sunday, for instance.

Yep..Springtails can be added before frogs. Correct. They are both food and janitors.
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#10
Great thanks! I did intend to ask if the Melanogaster would be a better overall choice, it seemed like it after reading the sticky.
Lisa
In central NY

R. Imitator 'Cainarachi Valley' 2.3.0
R. Imitator 'Cainarachi Valley' Froglets 8 and counting.
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#11
Howdy and Welcome.
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#12
Lisa,

Did you ever get any responses, PM's, pointers from anyone as to who to contact in your neck o' the woods ?

You can PM me with your results - good or bad, if you wish. Just curious as to how you are making out in the wide , wide, wonderful worlde of frogging.
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#13
No, I did PM Aaron, and he got back to me. He is pretty much out of everything it sounded like. Other than that, nothing. I did make it to the show in Columbus last weekend for a little bit. One guy had frogs there, was so excited I didn't even ask his name! :oops: But I did get a started culture of springtails from him.

He had froglets of Azureus, Tincs, and I think Leucs though a morph I didn't remember seeing anywhere. Black with small yellow spots. Reminded me of Auratus pattern kinda... Then he also had some Adult Leucs. Plus tads that I didn't really check what they were.
Lisa
In central NY

R. Imitator 'Cainarachi Valley' 2.3.0
R. Imitator 'Cainarachi Valley' Froglets 8 and counting.
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