Mixing Ameeraga species?

[KK4MDS]

I read on a store website that you should not mix Ameerega species in the same tank. I cannot find this information elsewhere. Is this correct?

Thanks

[Philsuma]

I would not mix ANY dart species.

[KK4MDS]

That doesn't make any sense. I've aways had more than one species, even genera, in the same tank with no problems. Thus my question.

[morten müller]

Must agree with Phil.

Mixing dart frogs are no go, and I do not understand how this issue can continue to pop up everywhere!?

I'm sorry to say, but if it does make sense to you, it must be because you have not done your homework properly, mixing species is frivolous, it helps to destroy pure blood lines in the hobby, In this context we all have a big responsibility not to disseminate hybridisation.

If you absolutely want to keep different colour frogs in the same setup, then you should consider looking for some species which can not combine DNA across localities/species.

[KK4MDS]

I do not breed frogs. The tank is not set up for tadpoles as there is no standing water. In 8 years I've never seen a tadpole in the tank.

So, that is not my concern. The short sentence that I read implied that different species of Ameerega don't get along. That is what I'm asking about.

[goods]

If you absolutely want to keep different colour frogs in the same setup, then you should consider looking for some species which can not combine DNA across localities/species.

Not advocating the practice of mixing, but for what it's worth, species in the bassleri group (bassleri, pepper, trivs, silverstonei) are genetically dissimilar enough to be unable to interbreed with those of the altamazonica group (altamazonica, hahneli and likely a number of the smaller species not yet available to the hobby)

[morten müller]

So then I have not done my homework well enough, I was convinced that species in the bassleri group could hybridisation.

[goods]

Morten, I don't think my last post was as clear as it could have been. Species in the bassleri group can (as far as I know) breed with one another (i.e. bassleri x pepperi, bassleri x silverstonei, etc. hybrids should be viable), and species in the altamazonica group can do the same (i.e. altamazonica x hahneli should be viable). This is not the case when species of the two groups are mixed (altamazonica x bassleri will not be able to breed).

I have seen a very large stream set up (~6' long) housing altamazonica and bassleri from the Sisa region. Both species bred profusely but never interbred with one another.

[KK4MDS]

So, based on the responses and as I have never seen tadpoles in my tank, there is no reason that I can't mix Ameerage species. That is, they will peacefully coexist.

[Philsuma]

Your mind was made up long ago. Do whatever you want. They are your frogs.

[KK4MDS]

No, my mind is not made up because my question has never been answered. Everybody has gone off on a tangent that has nothing to do with my initial inquiry. Can Ameeraga species be mixed in a tank and be peaceful?

[morten müller]

Thanks for the useful info Goods.

I think that your first post is not totally beside the fact, I have read up a bit on the subject, and it's actually pretty cool some Ameerega species have a genetic baikade which hamper interbreeding between species.

Ameerega frogs is not my strongest side, and must add I'm more a oophaga kind of guy. Perhaps one expert in Ameerega species can give KK4MDS a helping hand here, he's right, this post has gone in the wrong direction whether we like mixing darts or not.