04-15-2015, 12:24 PM
OK this is a rant and I try to avoid these, but I think it's needed to spark a debate. I'll throw this out there - if we don't improve our standards in managing our hobby lines we are no better than Dart Frog Warehouse / USA Frog. There. I said it. hock:
I cannot believe folks are crossing NAIB D. tinctorius "True Sipaliwini" with the 2012 imports that were originally labelled as Blue Sips on KS and re-identified as True Sips by hobbyists without any proof of site data correlated to the NAIB import. There was talk at the time of the import how another importer said that Suriname Cobalts often threw patterns resembling these animals (as posted on another forum). There was further talk about trying to go back to the importer and get site data, but nothing ever came of it. Now this, crossing NAIB animals with these 2012 True Blue Sips...
How is this any better than DFW crossing locales and sorting animals by phenotype?
Why are we not doing a better job managing out founders stock and talking about how to ensure we maintain lineages? This is not an effort limited to Pumilio. We should be caring just as much about tinctorius. Is it because they are "cheap"? Or easy to breed? An NAIB True Sip is one of the most uncommon and unique tinctorius in the hobby. If we don't pay attention to it, we're no better than DFW.
It seems to me as a hobby we focus more on "wide" collections with limited programs to sustain our stock rather than "deep" collections with multiple pairs of groups or animals that can maintain these representations of different less popular locales in our hobby. I'm not suggesting everyone has to do this, but as a hobby shouldn't we be more concerned about the sustainability of our stock?
As one frogger recently put it to me, it's our privilege to house these animals and we need to do a better job maintaining them. Perhaps as a hobbyist, should we each be selecting a project frog where we focus on multiple unrelated or less related pairs as a way to give back and sustain our hobby?
I cannot believe folks are crossing NAIB D. tinctorius "True Sipaliwini" with the 2012 imports that were originally labelled as Blue Sips on KS and re-identified as True Sips by hobbyists without any proof of site data correlated to the NAIB import. There was talk at the time of the import how another importer said that Suriname Cobalts often threw patterns resembling these animals (as posted on another forum). There was further talk about trying to go back to the importer and get site data, but nothing ever came of it. Now this, crossing NAIB animals with these 2012 True Blue Sips...
How is this any better than DFW crossing locales and sorting animals by phenotype?
Why are we not doing a better job managing out founders stock and talking about how to ensure we maintain lineages? This is not an effort limited to Pumilio. We should be caring just as much about tinctorius. Is it because they are "cheap"? Or easy to breed? An NAIB True Sip is one of the most uncommon and unique tinctorius in the hobby. If we don't pay attention to it, we're no better than DFW.
It seems to me as a hobby we focus more on "wide" collections with limited programs to sustain our stock rather than "deep" collections with multiple pairs of groups or animals that can maintain these representations of different less popular locales in our hobby. I'm not suggesting everyone has to do this, but as a hobby shouldn't we be more concerned about the sustainability of our stock?
As one frogger recently put it to me, it's our privilege to house these animals and we need to do a better job maintaining them. Perhaps as a hobbyist, should we each be selecting a project frog where we focus on multiple unrelated or less related pairs as a way to give back and sustain our hobby?
Jim from Austin | https://www.oneillscrossing.com/dart-frogs/
fantastica nominant | summersi | reticulata | A barbotini
fantastica nominant | summersi | reticulata | A barbotini