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Wild ? Reproducing well ?
Yep.
Florida Invasives are a hobby of mine.
Any Darts established in FL ? Sadly, no. Not possible in my opinion - Climate and geography are not suitable. NOW Tree Frogs? You'd be suprised at some of the invasive frogs down here...
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They look good.
I don't have a strong opinion on invasives in Florida. Do I think Florida would be better without all the invasives - Yes, but I do believe some are overstated.
That being said, those veileds look awesome. I am setting up free range chameleon room in my new house and could just picture how awesome they would look in it :-)
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Yes I would like those.I will help FL. You can send them my way. I have frogs to trade!
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I thought I remembered a couple years back somebody on the other site posting that their grandpa or uncle had a pretty good sized population of arautus on the family farm down there? Two years ago when we went to Miami, I was shocked by the number (and the size) of iguanas, they were everywhere.
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DKOOISTRA Wrote:I thought I remembered a couple years back somebody on the other site posting that their grandpa or uncle had a pretty good sized population of arautus on the family farm down there?
I seriously doubt any auratus are in Florida except in a very pampered walk-in greenhouse ect. They are not "in the wild", that's for sure. Florida is more like Mexico than Costa Rica. Everyone thinks that just because it's warm and never cold, that anything can flourish down there.
The biggies:
1. Nile Moniter and Varanid types - if you live next to Nile Crocs and manage to thrive, you gotta be tough !
2. Veiled Chameleons
3. Iguanas (not the green - that one may actually BE native, believe it or not)
4. Tokays
All of the above survive because they are hardy as Hell - tough as nails, voracious ect.
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Its from about 2 years ago. Not doubting you Phil, you know way more on this stuff than I do, just something to think about.
Hmmm, I did a preview, and I'm not sure the link will work. The poster was "ricktherarefrogbreeder", title of the thread was "aratus thriving in South Florida". Spelled just like that, missed the "u" in auratus. Check it out or maybe I can email you the link.
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yeah...I posted in that thread. I remember it well. "Rick the rare frog breeder" posted once and then....never again.
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I see that, I'm looking thru it now, where you were commenting on it. It gets the imagination going though.
Ive posted this before, I've found gumpies here at our Meijer gardens in the big green house section, never know what your going to find or where.
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"Whites gumpy" or is it "white dumpy". A friend of mine has some, he calls it a gumpy frog. I'm tired, wouldnt be suprised if I messed that one up. Talking to a volunteer there, he says they find them frequently with the plant shipments. It was sitting in about a 6' tall brom of some kind.
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Here are some great places in SoFl / Miami Florida, to see awesome exotic plants and animals.....all KINDS of critters from lots of different places !
http://www.fairchildgarden.org/
^^^ Agamas, Day Geckos, Exotic frogs in the water garden areas...and of course, alligators.
http://jungleisland.com/
^^^^ Buddy of mine works here....says the penguins are super cute. Monkeys and cool birds.
http://zoomiami.reachlocal.com/
^^^ Miami Zoo is cool....lots of exotic anoles and larger lizards here too
http://www.butterflyworld.com/start.html
^^^^ up north a bit in Ft Laud, but very cool...Millions of free range butterflies and small birds. The GF goes nutz for this place. They make excellent jewelry out of deceased b-fly wings too. It's really cool. Humingbirds too. Something like 50 or more species of b-flies flying all around your head as you walk thru the huge walk in viv !
South Beach http://www.lovehatetattoos.com/index.html
The "new" miami ink....heh
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Looks like I may have gotten it wrong, not too up on tree frogs. :oops:
The frog I was referring to is a "dumpy" or "whites tree frog" I see now its native to Australia.
I'm 90% certain this is what it was. Whatever it was, It was massive, and not from Michigan, I can tell ya that much. :mrgreen:
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That particular frog is rumoured to be established / breeding in the Ft Myers - Lee country area, for a few years now.
It used to be on this list, but I don't see it now....hmmm...
http://nas.er.usgs.gov/queries/SpeciesL ... Amphibians
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Thats it. It was big enough for me to spot from about 10' away. I zoomed in with the camera to get a close up of it. I know I got pics. but finding it in the 1000's we have will probably be impossible. I started asking the volunteer about pesticides use in the green house etc.. and he said they didn't use any, according to him its all natural. Seems possible that one or more could survive in there. I don't know, I just thought it was cool. But it shows how easy things can get around too.
Here's a link to where they were at
http://www.meijergardens.org/
If I get a chance this weekend I'll poke around the computer at home and see if i can find the pictures. No guarantees though.
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Spoke to a few collectors I know down south and they have been catching Oustelettes Chameleons with increasing frequency.
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Bill Schwinn Wrote:Spoke to a few collectors I know down south and they have been catching Oustelettes Chameleons with increasing frequency.
I SAW that.....the kingsnake ad recently. Those Oust's are big boys too.
There were rumours of Carpets over my way near Broward and even some people reporting kids taking Panthers into a local pet store in Ft Myers - saying they found them in their neighbourhood.
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Last time I vacationed in Florida we had a Tokay freaking barking in our room! Could not catch that little bastard for nothing! Lol!
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hutch0203 Wrote:Last time I vacationed in Florida we had a Tokay freaking barking in our room! Could not catch that little bastard for nothing! Lol!
Based on that particular species....I'll guess that you were either in Tampa (large amount of Tokays near port areas and surrounding residences and even warehouse areas)
or
SouthEast Florida - Miami area.
OR
My top guess - The Keys.
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I just lost my classroom chameleon, I wish I was in FL to just go catch a replacement.
Later and Happy Frogging,
Jason Juchems
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