I WANT a WATERFALL / STREAM !!!

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Postby Shane91 » Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:20 pm

An I see that. I've seen that pop up a few time now on this forum and a few others. But I still don't see the whole point on a massive water feature nor the drip walls adm waterfalls. I've had bad luck with them with my Firebelly belly toads!!! How and why idk? But you learn and thts what I like about this forum Bc people will shout out their opinion on whatever topic it is

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I WANT a WATERFALL / STREAM !!!

Postby SnakePaparazzi » Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:59 pm

I'd like to disagree partly to the idea that streams (not waterfalls) are not beneficial to PDFs... My point below is based solely upon care-sheets that are probably antiquated by now...

Most species of PDFs do not require nor will benefit from streams in their vivs however; there are a few species that breed more prolifically with a stream (i.e. Ameerega trivittata).

I agree that they can be a headache and most times unnecessary however; I have seen planted vivariums with streams run reliably without any issues from the water feature for years!

There are factors that if addressed properly in the build can greatly mitigate the possibility/probability of a water feature gone bad. Examples are:

1. Debris control

2. Ease of access/removal to hardware and wiring

Hope this helps :)

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Re: I WANT a WATERFALL / STREAM !!!

Postby ticmike » Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:12 pm

Must admit that my next build was to have a pond in it, mainly for tads but also as it would look pretty cool to, but you all have me second thinking the idea now?

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Postby joneill809 » Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:08 am

I use shallow ponds with sloped entry points for deposition in my vivs (I only keep tincs and galacs). I saw posts from Glenn (frogfreak) and liked the idea.
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See the wide shot of his racks and how the substrates slope down in a corner to expose false bottom water. It's a very effective use of space that provides a shallow deposition site which the frogs can easily get in and out of.
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Re: I WANT a WATERFALL / STREAM !!!

Postby guppygal » Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:01 pm

Sometimes, us old hobbyists like water falls/features ;)




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Postby Philsuma » Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:31 pm

I love me some well made water features. It's the crap stuffed in to a ten or fifteen gallon tank made by a new hobbyist as their first build that turns me off a bit. Your big tank looks nice!

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Postby guppygal » Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:36 pm

Why, thanks, kind sir! The galacts REALLY love it. This was our first 'open' concept tank, and it was fast, easy and it turned out extra nice. It's in the kitchen dining area, so we do have an audience ~~

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Postby joneill809 » Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:41 pm

Yeah talk about a frog paradise! A 1.2 in a 100 gallon - I think you can afford the floorspace for a water feature :) I do like the 360 view. Any trouble with the pump clogging? Any maintenance advice?
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Postby RanaVenenosa » Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:36 am

guppygal wrote:Why, thanks, kind sir! The galacts REALLY love it. This was our first 'open' concept tank, and it was fast, easy and it turned out extra nice. It's in the kitchen dining area, so we do have an audience ~~


I think there is a board rule that if you talk about cool water feature or viv you must post a pic :lol:
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Re: I WANT a WATERFALL / STREAM !!!

Postby Dan1990 » Sun Feb 15, 2015 8:51 pm

This Thread is a nice informative thread on the subject. I know when I first started looking at pics and thinking about dart frogs this is what I had in mind as an optional set up.
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But now I see thats not the case at all. I think its interesting how our preperceptions can be very different from the truth. I know mine have been influenced by my aquatic hobbies and the bullfrogs that live at the my pond. When I think frog thats what comes to mind. Dart frogs are an altogether different creature though with different habitats and needs. I think its awesome to learn about the fascinating animals and id like to thank you all for providing a friendly educational resource such as this thread and more so the fourm we have hear. I and my future frogs appreciate it immensely.

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Re: I WANT a WATERFALL / STREAM !!!

Postby Philsuma » Mon Mar 02, 2015 2:53 pm

Every newb wants a big water fall, drip wall, stream, lagoon ect.

Horrible for the frogs. So many terrible first builds.

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Postby Philsuma » Thu Mar 19, 2015 5:29 pm

If you are new to the hobby and it's your first build, please concentrate on keeping your frogs healthy and do not try to build a waterfall or stream ect.

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Postby Philsuma » Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:54 pm

water = frog drownings

water = soil compaction and less oxygen for microfuana

water = root rot and dead plants

water = undesirable bacteria growth

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Re: I WANT a WATERFALL / STREAM !!!

Postby Amagaeru » Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:38 pm

Thanks for the insights guys!

I have a red eye tree frog with a water feature that drips into two ceramic pools and is directed into a corner of the tank (ceramic pools made of small magnetic plant pots for refrigerators). I honestly decided to do a water feature because I was having a hard time keeping humidity and moisture high enough for him. He's doing great now and is much more active then he has ever been before the water feature.
This next build will be my fIrst time setting up a dart frog tank however, and because it'll be easier to maintain humidity with out a screen lid, I was wondering if it was wise to have a waterfall/drip wall. I won't be having an automated misting system though. Will it be fine over a weekend trip if I heavily mist the tank before leaving for a weekend?

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Re: I WANT a WATERFALL / STREAM !!!

Postby Philsuma » Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:39 pm

Wow, almost 9 out of 10 new posts on 'making my first set-up' is all about putting fish into a 'pond' area.

So much fail...it hurts.

Go simple folks, just frogs. No fish.

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Re: I WANT a WATERFALL / STREAM !!!

Postby Philsuma » Sat Jan 02, 2016 6:27 am

Do dart frogs drown in enclosures ?

Abso f'ing lutely

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Re: I WANT a WATERFALL / STREAM !!!

Postby Philsuma » Thu Jan 28, 2016 5:03 pm

Do you want a waterfall? Maybe you really don't, and just don't know it yet. Read from the start of the thread here please.

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Re: I WANT a WATERFALL / STREAM !!!

Postby Manzanitadude » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:23 pm

14. a waterfall or large water feature will look goofy and cramped in a little tank (under 50-70 gallons)
15. It may turn out to look like a papermache lump or concrete blob or that f'ed up volcano you had to build in 6th grade.

For the record it was the 5th grade sir, and it was the ugliest thing aside from my Aunt Sally's mystery meatloaf you've ever seen. Wise words...

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Re: I WANT a WATERFALL / STREAM !!!

Postby goods » Fri Feb 05, 2016 1:00 am

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Re: I WANT a WATERFALL / STREAM !!!

Postby Philsuma » Fri Feb 05, 2016 1:44 am

some are well designed. Not all are bad. You are far from a newb with his first tank or two.

I do notice that tank looks new. Give us a 6 month update.


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