How Much Leaf Litter?

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How Much Leaf Litter?

Postby rionjames » Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:20 pm

I am just wondering now how much leaf litter i should have for my santa isabel. He seems to utilize them regularly, but i dont want to over do it. Should the whole bottom be covered or just partly?

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How Much Leaf Litter?

Postby dtfleming » Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:49 pm

Good 2-3" layer
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Re: How Much Leaf Litter?

Postby rionjames » Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:59 pm

dtfleming wrote:Good 2-3" layer



Thank You. My currently nameless frog seems to enjoy hopping all around, and tends to use the leaf litter more at night. I know i should have a coconut hut for him, but if he is using the leaves is that good enough? im sorry i have so many questions, i just want to make sure im doing everything the right way rather than find out the wrong way lol

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Re: How Much Leaf Litter?

Postby Philsuma » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:00 pm

You can cover patches / parts of the bottom. I like using 2 layers of Magnolia leaves, that way there is lots of room in 'the pringles chips". I also use dried Live oak (smaller leaves) to mix into the above - helps the microfuana flourish.

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Re: How Much Leaf Litter?

Postby rionjames » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:03 pm

Philsuma wrote:You can cover patches / parts of the bottom. I like using 2 layers of Magnolia leaves, that way there is lots of room in 'the pringles chips". I also use dried Live oak (smaller leaves) to mix into the above - helps the microfuana flourish.



haha i actually referred to them as pringles as well because of how they are dried. as far as microfauna..do they show up on their own or is there something i have to do to get it started? i do have a 2 inch false bottom topped with a substrate barrier, some abg mix and then moss topped with some patched of leaves. I do not however have any standing water in the false bottom, but my humidity stays at a constant 90.

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Re: How Much Leaf Litter?

Postby Philsuma » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:13 pm

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Re: How Much Leaf Litter?

Postby RanaVenenosa » Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:17 pm

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Re: How Much Leaf Litter?

Postby rionjames » Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:42 pm

thanks, rana! ill have to check them out!

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Re: How Much Leaf Litter?

Postby Philsuma » Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:05 pm

Layers of leaf litter. LAYERS. Think pringles chips. LOTS of leaf litter. Very hard to put in 'too much'.

Leaf litter is almost *essential* to our hobby it's just that important.

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Re: How Much Leaf Litter?

Postby Armson » Wed Mar 09, 2016 7:43 am

When you think you have enough add another 2 layers.
I usually mix it up as well. Big stuff and small stuff.

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Re: How Much Leaf Litter?

Postby Armson » Wed Mar 09, 2016 7:46 am

Speaking of leaf litter.... What is everyone using? I was looking into getting leaves from something that was a tad more native to the frogs environment. (if it was available)

Just another one of my many theories... but maybe the micro fauna are pulling some trace element off the native leaf litter. Just a thought.

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Re: How Much Leaf Litter?

Postby Sherman » Fri Mar 11, 2016 10:41 am

The ground at Cahuita National Park was covered with Cattapa leaves (Indian Almond). I have not seen them in the hobby lately, but I they are still readily available on ebay. When I used them in the past, they were large leaves that broke down relatively slowly.
My quick search for coffee and chocolate tree leaves came up empty.


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