Ranitomeya benedicta eggs just Found

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Re: Ranitomeya benedicta eggs just Found

Postby Philsuma » Wed Jun 19, 2013 8:58 pm

they look....not good. Very common with the 'first' attempts at breeding.

Why not just let them in the viv, for the adults to raise ?

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Re: Ranitomeya benedicta eggs just Found

Postby LuckyFrog » Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:14 pm

Beacuse the tadploe died, is it that they are too white?
I think the pot that has three eggs, that milky while around the egg is an indicator that they are not good?

Do any of the eggs look okay?

Are they white like that when 1st laid?

I cant understand why the tadpole died, and the eggs looked icky?

I have about 6-8 eggs I can't reach as the pot is way in the back, I will leave those.

Do they just lay eggs all the time?

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Re: Ranitomeya benedicta eggs just Found

Postby Philsuma » Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:21 pm

They will lay 'all the time'....so no worries....there WILL be more.

Did you actually see a 'tadpole' ? The egg developed that much ? From what I could see, the eggs never developed that far.

Some factors that lead to infertile eggs.

1. 'New-ness" of the breeding pair - they have to 'practice' to 'get it right"

2. Poor nutrition - bad or inadequate superfine powered vitamins and calcium.

3. Humidity or Temperatures - not ideal.

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Re: Ranitomeya benedicta eggs just Found

Postby Philsuma » Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:23 pm

check out Jim's 'egg' pics to get an idea of what the egg development stages should look like -approx, day to day. They are all labeled really well.

Some Ranitomeya eggs are more 'white' coloured - your species is one, I believe.

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Re: Ranitomeya benedicta eggs just Found

Postby LuckyFrog » Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:46 pm

I feel sad Because it had developed two dots that looked like eyes....
It had a lil puckered mouth...

I found it upside down, 3 days ago, with its lil puckered mouth open...

:(

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Ranitomeya benedicta eggs just Found

Postby BcsTx » Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:46 pm

Need Yobosayo the DFW's thumb dude's opinion here...
At our frog meets he does buy 3 benies get one free.
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Re: Ranitomeya benedicta eggs just Found

Postby LuckyFrog » Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:48 pm

How do I find Jim's egg pics.....

I really would love that info, Thanks Phil.....

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Postby Philsuma » Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:55 pm

LuckyFrog wrote:How do I find Jim's egg pics.....

I really would love that info, Thanks Phil.....


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Re: Ranitomeya benedicta eggs just Found

Postby Philsuma » Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:57 pm

LuckyFrog wrote:I feel sad Because it had developed two dots that looked like eyes....
It had a lil puckered mouth...

I found it upside down, 3 days ago, with its lil puckered mouth open...

:(

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oh, you did get tads, then...

You can take a small plastic spoon and scoop them out and into a 'half size' / 6oz deli cup or similar, when they are that size.

overall, no worries....you'll have MORE than enough tadpoles developing into frogs at some point soon.

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Re: Ranitomeya benedicta eggs just Found

Postby Sally » Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:22 pm

Just a thought, I have tended to stay away from porous materials for egg laying. Obviously your benedicta like they clay pots, but try placing some film canisters in as well. You may have better luck with the eggs and tads.

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Re: Ranitomeya benedicta eggs just Found

Postby Philsuma » Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:28 pm

hmmm..interesting. The Clay sucks the moisture out from the egg/tad....I never thought of that.

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Re: Ranitomeya benedicta eggs just Found

Postby LuckyFrog » Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:30 pm

BcsTx wrote:Need Yobosayo the DFW's thumb dude's opinion here...
At our frog meets he does buy 3 benies get one free.


Tell Yobosayo to let me know his Bene breeding thoughts on this.......Thanks Beth!

Phil I am still Reading " JIMS EGGS" I am learning so much from you guys....

Thanks Dart Den!

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Re: Ranitomeya benedicta eggs just Found

Postby LuckyFrog » Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:43 pm

They "Shun" The canisters, and all the Clay pots are in part water, or soaked Spag.... the pots are always soaked....

I thought about it before I used Clay with my darts, but since it does have a more "Natural" Feel, I guess they prefer them....

I wasn't planning on breeding them in this tank, it was only a holding tank, and I was doing maintenance, and Surprise.....

Guess they really liked the pots.

The pots are never dry, they always have moisture, where a film can, has to be "Filled" By either the parent or human, or by spraying, They also collect Slime, dead bugs, and have to be rinsed often.....

You never have to fill these, with these lil pots, as long as the bottoms are submerged, It stays " MOIST" .
I have equal numbers of both.... So I will see.

I will let the frogs pick what they like, If the other eggs survive, I will post pics.

The jelly also has not dried up, I assume as long as the pot is partially submerged.

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Re: Ranitomeya benedicta eggs just Found

Postby IDPM » Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:55 pm

Nice one Beth!

Luckyfrog, Sally just gave you a good tip - film cannisters, or something else smooth and non porous. Makes it easier to get the eggs out and probably better for development. That may be why a lot of your eggs are going bad.

When I was pulling eggs they were usually on leaves and once in a while in film cans. I just put the leaf or can in a large deli cup and fill it with water until the water touches the base of the jel and lay a lid on the cup. Every couple days I take an eye dropper and wet down the eggs. Once the tads are close to breaking out I raise the water level so they can swim out. From there into individual cups they go.

My Benies continue to lay regardless if tads or other eggs are in the tank. They don't egg feed the tads so they really shouldn't stop laying unless there are no suitable laying sites for them. Mine are clocks, they lay every 7-10 days.
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Ranitomeya benedicta eggs just Found

Postby BcsTx » Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:02 pm

Eggs are pretty tough, had some thumbs lay them on the sides of the plastic QT container and I just scraped them off and put them in a Petri dish. Just lightly misted them every day or so and got 2 tads out of 3 eggs.
I think you are working too hard. Just scrape them off and put them on a flat surface and if you want/need humidity then put them in a Tupperware container with holes in the lid and mist lightly, increase misting when they are getting ready to emerge from the egg sack. Once free swimming move the tads to individual containers.
Or just put some film canisters in there with water and let them do their own thing. The male will/should keep the eggs moist and when they emerge to tads they will transport them to a water source.

Once they are in viv you will have to wait for them to transport and then pull tads from film canisters or upset them looking for eggs.
Sounds like they are "new parents" they will get the hang of it.
BTW I like your clay pots will give those a try.
:-)
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Re: Ranitomeya benedicta eggs just Found

Postby LuckyFrog » Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:09 pm

Okay so I will, try that, Thanks so much you guys!!!!!!

I am a nervous parent, lol.

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Ranitomeya benedicta eggs just Found

Postby Rusty_Shackleford » Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:45 am

I like using slurpee straws for moving eggs or tads. It has that nice little spoon part on the end, and they're cheap and disposable. Just go into a 7-11 and grab a handful, and a delicious coca cola slurpee!


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Re: Ranitomeya benedicta eggs just Found

Postby RichardA » Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:49 pm

I was gonna search to see if using the clay pots were common with other froggers.....appears there are some using them.


Keep at it, sorry for the loss of the eggs and tad.


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