Oophaga sylvatica "Narino" / Koi in U.S hobby ?

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Re: Narino Sylvatica in U.S hobby ?

Postby Armson » Thu Dec 27, 2012 4:53 pm

Philsuma wrote:Swamp Fox is dead on. I used to know his name as we lived fairly close to each other when I had a condo in Tamarac.

THIS is 1000% important advice. Do not CHASE rare frogs. If you do, and are not in the 'in crowd', there is a 90% you will get burned in some fashion - money taken, sexed frogs wrong, sick animals ect ect.

I know you were asking about these in the future tense, but this bears stating for all the other people reading this thread

This, and many other rare species are....'if you have to ask about them......you're not ready"....


I have a huge problem with this....

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Re: Narino Sylvatica in U.S hobby ?

Postby Philsuma » Thu Dec 27, 2012 4:58 pm

lol....join the club.

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Re: Narino Sylvatica in U.S hobby ?

Postby RichFrye » Fri Dec 28, 2012 3:57 pm

Philsuma wrote: ...
Do not CHASE rare frogs. If you do, and are not in the 'in crowd', there is a 90% you will get burned in some fashion - money taken, sexed frogs wrong, sick animals ect ect.


I have no idea who or what the "in crowd" is. I know I am "in" (very) with some, 'out' (very) with others. It's the way I want it. And I also know there are U.S. froggers who I'd not accept frogs from , if they were free (I have a recent email to back this up, BTW).
I've been what I'd call burned exactly twice when trusting two guys to come through and be men of their word.
For some reason Sidney Ferrell and Paul Bachelor think I'll somehow forget all about them. Not going to happen.
But, it had less to do with "chasing rare frogs" and more to do with habitual liars caught too late in the game and their lack of a moral compass. Had nothing to do with the fact the frogs were "rare". I don't chase frogs (rare or other-wise) , I plan and have projects.
I see cheap frogs and hybrids offered all the time. And those are the ones those new to the hobby really need to worry about. Some of those importers of cheap easy to find frogs can be the biggest detriment to the hobby, and the biggest cause of large die-offs.
I'd venture to say the "money taken, sexed wrong, and sick animal" ploys are used on newbs at a much higher rate than 'rare frog scams'. So, buyer beware. And remember, impulse buys , be they cheap frogs or rare, be you newb or dusty old timer, rarely work out for you or the frog.



Philsuma wrote:
I know you were asking about these in the future tense, but this bears stating for all the other people reading this thread


Byron, just for your info, has been working with darts before you or I have. To try to keep things in perspective. OP mentioned below.


Philsuma wrote:
This, and many other rare species are....'if you have to ask about them......you're not ready"....


I think asking about the breeding being done here is fine. As long all things are kept in perspective. I doubt "itskris" was looking to find a pair/group for himself, rather just curious. Which I am also.
Asking who to purchase from and how to get them now and how much they will cost would be a big red flag though. I didn't read that in this thread.
Darts with parasites are analogous to mixed tanks, there are no known benefits to the frogs with either.


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Re: Narino Sylvatica in U.S hobby ?

Postby Philsuma » Tue Mar 29, 2016 6:43 pm

Oophaga sylvatica 'Narino', y'all.

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Postby joneill809 » Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:37 pm

Are you getting some Narino Phil?
Jim from Austin please contact me if you are willing to trade offspring from:
lorenzo - schwinn line|NAIB true sips|fantastica nominant
http://www.oneillscrossing.com/dart-frogs/

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Postby Philsuma » Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:55 pm

may...be....

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Postby joneill809 » Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:24 pm

Well good luck - unless Byron beats you to it. ;)
Jim from Austin please contact me if you are willing to trade offspring from:
lorenzo - schwinn line|NAIB true sips|fantastica nominant
http://www.oneillscrossing.com/dart-frogs/

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Re: Narino Sylvatica in U.S hobby ?

Postby goods » Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:09 pm

Where are you getting Narino from?
ZG

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Re: Narino Sylvatica in U.S hobby ?

Postby Armson » Wed Mar 30, 2016 7:41 am

joneill809 wrote:Well good luck - unless Byron beats you to it. ;)


Yeah my frog purchases are shutdown for a bit.....

But I have no idea what a Narino sylvatica looks like. Anyone got a picture?

I just need to know if it's worth pissing my wife off or not.


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Re: Narino Sylvatica in U.S hobby ?

Postby Philsuma » Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:30 am

B - There are pictures in the first couple posts of this very thread.

"Koi" sylvatica.

They are here in the states in very small numbers and ,of course, in Europe in much larger numbers.

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Re: Narino Sylvatica in U.S hobby ?

Postby Armson » Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:24 pm

OK now that I am not hopped up on Caffeine, I actually went back and reread this thread,
Holy shit it's like 4 years old! God damn time flies (like a banana)

Where the hell did swampfox go?
Phil are the Narnia frogs inbound ?
WHAT DO YOU KNOW PHIL, TELL US?


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Re: Narino Sylvatica in U.S hobby ?

Postby goods » Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:29 pm

Philsuma wrote:B - There are pictures in the first couple posts of this very thread.

"Koi" sylvatica.

They are here in the states in very small numbers and ,of course, in Europe in much larger numbers.


Ahh...I was thinking you may be referencing the whitefoots that Wikiri is planning to bring in soon and just lumping them into one morph.
ZG


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