Standard Lamasi Info

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Standard Lamasi Info

Postby RichFrye » Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:31 am

As more and more standard lamasi are getting out into the hobby, I would like to start a Q+A thread on them.
After reading some posted info (some factual, some not so) I would love discuss these beauties with breeders ,potential breeders, or anyone interested.

Rich
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Postby trinacliff » Sun Mar 19, 2006 8:19 am

This sounds like a good idea, so here are a few questions to get things started. :) All of this is "in your experience", so obviously we could get some different answers.

1) At approximately what age are they mature enough to start laying?

2) How do they seem to thrive/breed best...groups or pairs? If groups, what sex ratio?

3) If they lay eggs in film canisters, what angle/orientation do they prefer? If they don't use film canisters often, where do they prefer to lay?


I'm sure I can come up with more, but I have to run for now. :)

Thanks!

Kristen

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Postby Cindy Dicken » Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:20 am

Rich,
I would be intrested in finding out how closely (or not) the standards parallel the panguana.


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Postby RichFrye » Sun Mar 19, 2006 4:39 pm

Hi Kristen and Cindy,
The lamasi lines I work with can produce good eggs at less than a year old but I have also waited over two years to get good eggs from a group. There seems to be no rhyme or reason to it. One of the frustrating sides to working with standard lamasi.
I have found that pairs work great for all of the species I work with but if you have a huge viv you can breed multiple groups.
Most of the eggs I find are in horizontal film cans. They will also lay on glass being touched by leaves and leaves themselves.
I only have limited experience with panguana, the "original panguanas" and got them to produce good eggs in less than 10 months old. Everyone I have talked to has had a much easier time breeding any of the panguanas in the U.S. hobby than standards.
It is my guess that the "lines" we have in the States right now are related (possibly very closely) and this may be a cause of their breeding difficulty or at least be a contributing factor.
Lamasi are no more sensitive than most other Thumbs , they require no more attention or work. It does take a bit of patience to get a pair or group to produce good eggs. There ids a big difference between sensitive frogs and frogs that take great lengths of time to produce good eggs. Most of the bad eggs produced before they get their act together have very asymmetrical centers looking a bit like a squished almond. Once the eggs centers produced are round the breeders are over the hump and the eggs will soon be good.

Rich
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Postby Rad3Dad » Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:53 am

Hey Rich,

I was wondering if you had any insight on there clutch ratio's of m/f? I know the Imi's breed male heavy, and I have heard (?) that vents come out female heavy, so I was curious as to how these turn out.

The std. Lamasi are a stunning frog, that I hope to acquire a little further down the road, and I am glad to hear that they are becoming a little bit more available.

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Postby RichFrye » Tue Mar 21, 2006 9:02 am

Hi Mike,
It is my experience that they sex female heavy, as much as 2:1, which would be 1:2 from a three tad hatch.

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Postby Cindy Dicken » Fri Mar 24, 2006 7:35 pm


Rich,
I have noticed the panguana run a little female heavy, don't know if I would go as for to say 2 to 1.
The panguana also start to lay at a very young age (10 months).
While I have never had a bad egg, I have had a large number of eternal tadpoles, and on occasion SLS.
We have also noticed that when we let the parent raise the tads, they morph out considerably smaller than when we pull them.
Our panguana lay on bromeliads, as well as fim canisters that are usually horizontal. We have a number of film canisters in their tank and they will drop off tads in the canisters mounted to the side of the tank, that have water in them. We have found as many as four tads in one film cannister at once.
These guys like their tanks wet. We do not have a running water feature in the tank, but the do have a small pond area. We have also noticed we get more production from these in the sprng than any other time of the year.

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Re: Standard Lamasi Info

Postby rcteem » Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:35 pm

Rich, are your standards still producing female heavy cause if so why is everyone looking for females and not males?


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