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What else can I feed Dart Frogs besides Fruit Flies ?

Postby Philsuma » Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:21 pm

1. Springtails

2. Isopods

3. Bean Beetles

4. Pin head Crickets

Fruit flies should be the staple though. They are the easiest and most reliable to culture, cheapest (overall) and they hold superfine powder best (beetles and crix hold powder too, though).

Ocassionally, this statement will pop up: " I don't want to buy/culture/deal with fruit flies".

To that, I would say: "Dart Frogs may not be the best animal for you, then" unfortunately.

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Re: What else can I feed Dart Frogs besides Fruit Flies ?

Postby Cindy Dicken » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:55 pm

Termites......yum.

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Re: What else can I feed Dart Frogs besides Fruit Flies ?

Postby D3monic » Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:09 pm

I am just too darn nervious to have termites floating around my house....is it true that you need fliers for them to breed?
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Re: What else can I feed Dart Frogs besides Fruit Flies ?

Postby Philsuma » Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:46 pm

I would put the Termites right up there with Crickets as a situational or supplemental feeder.

Terms are high in Fat content, I believe. I hear a lot of hobbyists using them to put quick weight on their breeding frogs with them.

I have heard of an instance where the termite actually bit the frog on the lip as it was being eaten resulting in a lasting sore on the frog.

I think there is also one type of feeder insect than hardly anyone uses....Roaches. Even the small, non climbing kind don't seem to be good for our hobby.

How about those little "Calcium Worms" or Phoenix Worms ? Mixed reviews on those too....

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Re: What else can I feed Dart Frogs besides Fruit Flies ?

Postby Philsuma » Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:35 pm

Pea Aphids

Book or Bark lice (look like springtails)

Flour (Confused) Beetles and larvae

Firebrats (Sliverfish)

Field sweepings / "Meadow plankton" - from a spray free zone.

Some of these are not easy to culture and/or not commonly available in the U.S hobby for various reasons.

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Re: What else can I feed Dart Frogs besides Fruit Flies ?

Postby dtfleming » Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:27 pm

Has anyone tried Phoenix worms? I see Josh's Frogs is selling them. maybe for the bigger species.
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Re: What else can I feed Dart Frogs besides Fruit Flies ?

Postby Philsuma » Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:29 pm

I've seen a lot of posts on them....none had anything good to say about them for Dart Frogs...

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Re: What else can I feed Dart Frogs besides Fruit Flies ?

Postby dtfleming » Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:31 pm

Good to know
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Re: What else can I feed Dart Frogs besides Fruit Flies ?

Postby Philsuma » Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:33 pm

Specifically that Dart Frogs just "didn't eat them"....spit them out....that type of thing.

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Re: What else can I feed Dart Frogs besides Fruit Flies ?

Postby dtfleming » Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:39 pm

I thought maybe they would be good for terribillis
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Re: What else can I feed Dart Frogs besides Fruit Flies ?

Postby Philsuma » Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:42 pm

It's worth checking out. I also hear a ton of people say that their frogs refuse Flour / confused Beetles and today, my Buddy Todd was over and said that ALL of his frogs eat both the Beetle as well as the Larvae. Go figure....

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Re: What else can I feed Dart Frogs besides Fruit Flies ?

Postby dtfleming » Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:09 pm

I have gotten several plants and woodlice from Todd.
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Re: What else can I feed Dart Frogs besides Fruit Flies ?

Postby dendroworks » Wed Jun 08, 2011 12:38 pm

When available here in the UK I use Phoenix worms - the extra small ones that are occasionally sold. The frogs do take a while to get used to them (apart from the terribs that wolf anything put in front of them down!) but the majority now will take them. If the nutritional information is accurate they are def a worthwhile addition.

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Re: What else can I feed Dart Frogs besides Fruit Flies ?

Postby tarrie411 » Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:08 pm

Does anyone know where i can get termites?

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Re: What else can I feed Dart Frogs besides Fruit Flies ?

Postby Philsuma » Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:37 pm

Termites are only offered by a few people and then, only seasonally and occasionally.

Not that they are really $$, but most people do not culture them for a variety of reasons. The ones harvested from the wild - you have to be careful of as well (disease).

You should place an ad in the "Wanted" section of the Marketplace here.

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Re: What else can I feed Dart Frogs besides Fruit Flies ?

Postby Philsuma » Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:45 pm

tarrie411 wrote:Does anyone know where i can get termites?


Here ya go:

http://shop.southeasternff.com/Termites-0023.htm

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Re: What else can I feed Dart Frogs besides Fruit Flies ?

Postby DrAzura » Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:15 pm

I just ordered 600 Phoenix worms from ***** *****. They were the extra small size and came in 4 cups of 150 each. I sorted through 2 cups to only find 60 out of the assumed 300. Thats an 80% loss. ...and that is a conservative number counting all the DOA's. I am going to contact the seller tomorrow to see whats up with this. Has anyone else had this problem with a vendor?

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Re: What else can I feed Dart Frogs besides Fruit Flies ?

Postby Philsuma » Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:17 pm

Go ahead and start a thread here, in this section:

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It's ok to name names - vendor or business. In fact, it's essential....in the vendor feedback forum.

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Re: What else can I feed Dart Frogs besides Fruit Flies ?

Postby EntoCraig » Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:10 pm

Philsuma wrote:
tarrie411 wrote:Does anyone know where i can get termites?


Here ya go:

http://shop.southeasternff.com/Termites-0023.htm


I do a lot of business with SouthEasternFruitFlies.com and I can recommend them personally. they can also get you isopods and spingtails which will help keep your viv clean as well as provide food.


DrAzura wrote:I just ordered 600 Phoenix worms from ***** *****. They were the extra small size and came in 4 cups of 150 each. I sorted through 2 cups to only find 60 out of the assumed 300. Thats an 80% loss. ...and that is a conservative number counting all the DOA's. I am going to contact the seller tomorrow to see whats up with this. Has anyone else had this problem with a vendor?


Are you talking about JoFr's or SouthEasterFF's? SSFF's will make any wrong order, right, guaranteed!

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Re: What else can I feed Dart Frogs besides Fruit Flies ?

Postby DrAzura » Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:58 pm

Yes, It was Josh's Frogs... I just contacted him. I explained the situation and he took care of it... I love good customer service! As a distributor I would be upset with the manufacture. I hope I am in the minority here. Has anyone else had this issue with Phoenix Worms?


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