SackOHammers
01-15-2007, 02:01 AM
Greetings everyone, new to this community.
I set up my Viv about 2-3 months ago.
20 gallon tall
Now I need to select some frogs.
This website has a nice sheet here:
http://www.dartden.com/cs_generaldart.php
And it poses several questions to answer for yourself when considering choosing a frog. I would like to post what my desires are, and then my hope is that you kind folks will suggest a frog species that will best match those criteria.
First off - here is my terrarium so far:
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/1770/img1509nl7.jpg
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/1149/img1510xb4.jpg
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/8971/img1511dt0.jpg
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/4346/img1518yb7.jpg
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/4346/img1518yb7.jpg
Our preference is for a larger frog. Thumbnails seem a little small for what I'm trying to achieve. The color that most interests us is blue, this leaves us with many options. We also really like the blue and yellow combinations seen in the cobalts and other similar tincs. For our first foray we would prefer something that is a tad on the beginner side. We have been keeping fish for years and have had great success with our aquarium(s). Also, the temperature and humidity in the Viv has been very stable the last few months. It sits around 72F and 90% humidity with a deviation of less than five in both areas... I have a little meter that lets me check min and max over time. So, we could -probably- handle an "intermediate" level species. We would like to avoid shy/hiding frogs. Something that will be active and enjoyable to watch. It would be really nice if we could get something that would like to climb a little bit... but from what I've read so far, the larger frogs that are more social tend to be terrestrial only. As for the call, something that is subdued would be preferred. Nothing shrill or sharp and staccato.
Given that, could you recommend some frogs?
Here is what we have been considering:
Azureus
tinc Citronella
Surinam Cobalt
French Guiana Cobalt
One thing about the blue and yellow frogs... if the yellow is washed and not a vivid yellow then we might prefer just an all blue frog or another species with a vivid yellow. We also prefer the yellow to be more striped than blotchy dots. I know this can also depend on bloodline and where you get the frogs. Well, thats another part of the question. Where do you recommend getting the frogs from? They would be shipping to Austin, TX.
Also, do you recommend two or four? If four seems reasonable then we would be interested in getting two different species.
Maybe two Azureus and two tincs? Just look at these cute little guys here in this petri dish:
http://www.brianstropicals.com/ohio_dart_frogs.html
Which tinc is that in the water? Would two pairs of adults of these species get on well?
I've also started figuring out what I need to do to prepare for the arrival of our new friends.
I figured I would get the fruit flies going a week ahead of time (from here):
http://www.brianstropicals.com/supplies.html
The care kit looks nice.
I also understand that I should keep them in a plastic container with layers of moist paper towels for a few weeks. During the period it would be recommended to collect some of their droppings and send them for analysis and then follow a treatment recommendation?
Is there any documentation for this? Who provides this service?
Also, since I really don't have a water feature in my Viv, how should I handle water? I have these nut cup looking things... they look like they come from the jungle. I have been keeping water in them and just having them sit in my Viv.... just to make sure everything is OK. Will that be good or should I get something else for water?
Any other recommendations?
I set up my Viv about 2-3 months ago.
20 gallon tall
Now I need to select some frogs.
This website has a nice sheet here:
http://www.dartden.com/cs_generaldart.php
And it poses several questions to answer for yourself when considering choosing a frog. I would like to post what my desires are, and then my hope is that you kind folks will suggest a frog species that will best match those criteria.
First off - here is my terrarium so far:
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/1770/img1509nl7.jpg
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/1149/img1510xb4.jpg
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/8971/img1511dt0.jpg
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/4346/img1518yb7.jpg
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/4346/img1518yb7.jpg
Our preference is for a larger frog. Thumbnails seem a little small for what I'm trying to achieve. The color that most interests us is blue, this leaves us with many options. We also really like the blue and yellow combinations seen in the cobalts and other similar tincs. For our first foray we would prefer something that is a tad on the beginner side. We have been keeping fish for years and have had great success with our aquarium(s). Also, the temperature and humidity in the Viv has been very stable the last few months. It sits around 72F and 90% humidity with a deviation of less than five in both areas... I have a little meter that lets me check min and max over time. So, we could -probably- handle an "intermediate" level species. We would like to avoid shy/hiding frogs. Something that will be active and enjoyable to watch. It would be really nice if we could get something that would like to climb a little bit... but from what I've read so far, the larger frogs that are more social tend to be terrestrial only. As for the call, something that is subdued would be preferred. Nothing shrill or sharp and staccato.
Given that, could you recommend some frogs?
Here is what we have been considering:
Azureus
tinc Citronella
Surinam Cobalt
French Guiana Cobalt
One thing about the blue and yellow frogs... if the yellow is washed and not a vivid yellow then we might prefer just an all blue frog or another species with a vivid yellow. We also prefer the yellow to be more striped than blotchy dots. I know this can also depend on bloodline and where you get the frogs. Well, thats another part of the question. Where do you recommend getting the frogs from? They would be shipping to Austin, TX.
Also, do you recommend two or four? If four seems reasonable then we would be interested in getting two different species.
Maybe two Azureus and two tincs? Just look at these cute little guys here in this petri dish:
http://www.brianstropicals.com/ohio_dart_frogs.html
Which tinc is that in the water? Would two pairs of adults of these species get on well?
I've also started figuring out what I need to do to prepare for the arrival of our new friends.
I figured I would get the fruit flies going a week ahead of time (from here):
http://www.brianstropicals.com/supplies.html
The care kit looks nice.
I also understand that I should keep them in a plastic container with layers of moist paper towels for a few weeks. During the period it would be recommended to collect some of their droppings and send them for analysis and then follow a treatment recommendation?
Is there any documentation for this? Who provides this service?
Also, since I really don't have a water feature in my Viv, how should I handle water? I have these nut cup looking things... they look like they come from the jungle. I have been keeping water in them and just having them sit in my Viv.... just to make sure everything is OK. Will that be good or should I get something else for water?
Any other recommendations?