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			<title><![CDATA[Shipping in cold temperatures]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[I've only shipped in the springtime and early fall when temperatures were at the lowest in the sixties.  I live in CA but other parts of the country are still experiencing some pretty cold temperatures, and although I only use FedEx Overnight Priority by 10:30, I'm still not sure of it.  I've always used insulated boxes with 3/4" styrofoam and either Cryopaks or Phase22 panels.  <br />
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How safe are 40 hour heat packs with dart frogs?  I've always worried about the amount of heat they would produce inside of a sealed styrofoam insulated box.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I've only shipped in the springtime and early fall when temperatures were at the lowest in the sixties.  I live in CA but other parts of the country are still experiencing some pretty cold temperatures, and although I only use FedEx Overnight Priority by 10:30, I'm still not sure of it.  I've always used insulated boxes with 3/4" styrofoam and either Cryopaks or Phase22 panels.  <br />
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How safe are 40 hour heat packs with dart frogs?  I've always worried about the amount of heat they would produce inside of a sealed styrofoam insulated box.]]></content:encoded>
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			<description><![CDATA[bump,<br />
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Visited this place several times since moving to Austin and nothing but great experience and knowledgable staff. Thanks!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[bump,<br />
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Visited this place several times since moving to Austin and nothing but great experience and knowledgable staff. Thanks!]]></content:encoded>
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			<description><![CDATA[I think my set-up seemes to work just fine :D <br />
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The Granis has now laid eggs 3 times since I posted photos last time, I must by a lucky man, I was expecting more trouble with this species and locality, it is the first time these frogs breed, and they are about a year old ( breed as F1 in Germany)<br />
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Femal <br />
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Eggs from today<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I think my set-up seemes to work just fine :D <br />
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The Granis has now laid eggs 3 times since I posted photos last time, I must by a lucky man, I was expecting more trouble with this species and locality, it is the first time these frogs breed, and they are about a year old ( breed as F1 in Germany)<br />
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Femal <br />
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Eggs from today<br />
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			<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2026 12:20:36 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Scott, I do not disagree with MUCH of what you say- a lot of the Wascher stuff. but I'll add a few quick bullet points:<br />
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Keeping frogs in glass boxes isn't playing God, but choosing to line breed / cross is IMHO<br />
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That Florida hobbyist with the 12 tincs in the 36 gallon bowfront was a complete FAIL. The enclosure was too small and poorly designed and the fact that other hobbyists must now 'clean up his mess' is unconscionable and close to criminal. That enclosure could be a snapshot of 'what not to do' for frogs. Jelly's first vivarium was the EXACT same way - horrible. Pics and thread are still here on DD. His new viv and attitude is much better and I have NO problem if he wants to keep a mixed tank in his house.<br />
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Now breeding and mailing /shipping hybrids across the country, I'm totally against. See above.<br />
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I've met and talked to at least 300 different hobbyists over the years and I've never had a discussion or reason to think that they would rather have a hybrid frog, in fact, I'd be willing to bet that they would WANT an imported animal over a questionable one - what does that tell you ? Hybrids = MORE imports.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Scott, I do not disagree with MUCH of what you say- a lot of the Wascher stuff. but I'll add a few quick bullet points:<br />
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Keeping frogs in glass boxes isn't playing God, but choosing to line breed / cross is IMHO<br />
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That Florida hobbyist with the 12 tincs in the 36 gallon bowfront was a complete FAIL. The enclosure was too small and poorly designed and the fact that other hobbyists must now 'clean up his mess' is unconscionable and close to criminal. That enclosure could be a snapshot of 'what not to do' for frogs. Jelly's first vivarium was the EXACT same way - horrible. Pics and thread are still here on DD. His new viv and attitude is much better and I have NO problem if he wants to keep a mixed tank in his house.<br />
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Now breeding and mailing /shipping hybrids across the country, I'm totally against. See above.<br />
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I've met and talked to at least 300 different hobbyists over the years and I've never had a discussion or reason to think that they would rather have a hybrid frog, in fact, I'd be willing to bet that they would WANT an imported animal over a questionable one - what does that tell you ? Hybrids = MORE imports.]]></content:encoded>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2026 12:20:36 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[My fiance' and I have been giving some serious thought to trying this out, It beats smoking that's for sure.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[My fiance' and I have been giving some serious thought to trying this out, It beats smoking that's for sure.]]></content:encoded>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2026 12:20:36 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Trio still available and other obligates available for pick up only.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[No pics? That just ain't right.  :P]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[Blockhead may be an understatement if you look at some of his 'facts' on other topics such as what Bastis can breed together.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote="fieldsmith"]Congrats on the lil-un's! Gorgeous frogs for sure. The rack is looking awesome as well, hope new year is treating y'all splendidly![/quote]<br />
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Thanks Field and great to hear from you mate.Frankly we have had better starts to a new year , but ya know what they say ya can't keep a frogger down!! So we'll end this bugger better than we have started it. <br />
Anyway buddy I hope things are going great for you and yours,oh got a sighting of the first baby RFB a couple of days back OOORRAA can't get a good picture though yet<br />
take care bro<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[[quote="fieldsmith"]Congrats on the lil-un's! Gorgeous frogs for sure. The rack is looking awesome as well, hope new year is treating y'all splendidly![/quote]<br />
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Thanks Field and great to hear from you mate.Frankly we have had better starts to a new year , but ya know what they say ya can't keep a frogger down!! So we'll end this bugger better than we have started it. <br />
Anyway buddy I hope things are going great for you and yours,oh got a sighting of the first baby RFB a couple of days back OOORRAA can't get a good picture though yet<br />
take care bro<br />
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			<description><![CDATA[Mine was given to me by someone leaving the hobby but I thought they were around 400$]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[Eggcrate false bottom would be eaiser for large builds like @ 55 gallon size enclosures. Leca is easy for smaller sizes like yours - 30 gallon. It's a toss up - whatever you feel more comfortable with and whatever supply is closer or cheaper. There is no 'right or wrong' with either.<br />
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Temps - use basic 'house' temps are your goal - 65-75 F <br />
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'hand misting' is fine. No need for automation with a single tank. Read up on the threads here:<br />
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and here:<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Eggcrate false bottom would be eaiser for large builds like @ 55 gallon size enclosures. Leca is easy for smaller sizes like yours - 30 gallon. It's a toss up - whatever you feel more comfortable with and whatever supply is closer or cheaper. There is no 'right or wrong' with either.<br />
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Temps - use basic 'house' temps are your goal - 65-75 F <br />
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'hand misting' is fine. No need for automation with a single tank. Read up on the threads here:<br />
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and here:<br />
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He just really loves to pose.. :)<br />
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And can't beat a nice looking Atelopus sp.<br />
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He just really loves to pose.. :)<br />
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And can't beat a nice looking Atelopus sp.<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[Import Failure - Dead animals]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 13:05:01 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">   A sad sight.<br />
And this was one of three boxes!</span><br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">   A sad sight.<br />
And this was one of three boxes!</span><br />
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			<title><![CDATA[Fed Ex Service Interuption]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 17:19:40 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">FedEx Severe Weather Update<br />
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The severe weather resulting from Hurricane Irene that is bringing hazardous conditions across the East Coast is leaving difficult conditions and is affecting FedEx operations. Unavoidable service delays should be expected due to widespread power outages and local road conditions. FedEx is committed to providing service to the best of our ability in areas that can be safely accessed and where conditions have improved. We will continue to monitor the situation to minimize the impact on service. Please continue to check fedex.com for updates.<br />
<br />
FedEx Express<br />
Customers in the following states will be impacted by delays with package pickup and delivery operations:<br />
Connecticut, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina coastal areas, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Eastern Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Virginia, and Washington DC <br />
<br />
Additionally, facilities in Manteo, NC are closed and will not reopen until conditions are safe for pickup and delivery operations.<br />
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FedEx Ground<br />
Customers in the following states will be impacted by delays with package pickup and delivery operations:<br />
Connecticut, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina coastal areas, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Eastern Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Virginia<br />
<br />
FedEx Freight<br />
Service delays should be expected throughout the following areas: <br />
Hartford, CT; New Haven, CT; Albany, NY; Newburgh, NY; Portland, ME; Avon, MA; Worcester, MA; West Worcester, MA; Providence, RI; Bellows Falls, VT<br />
<br />
FedEx Office<br />
We are currently assessing Center operations and will provide operational updates later this afternoon as information becomes available.<br />
<br />
FedEx Trade Networks<br />
The following locations are closed due to power outages:<br />
Baltimore, MD; Norfolk, VA<br />
<br />
Shipping to affected areas?<br />
To help avoid delays, we encourage you to contact your recipients to verify if their location is accepting shipments before and after the storm. In the event of evacuations, shipments not delivered before the storm will be secured in one of our facilities. Delivery will be attempted when it is safe to do so.<br />
<br />
Consistent with the provisions of the FedEx Service Guide, the money-back guarantee will not apply to FedEx® shipments affected by weather. Continue to check fedex.com for service updates. For specific shipment status information, please track your shipment at fedex.com. You can also contact FedEx Customer Service at 1.800.GoFedEx 1.800.463.3339.</span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">FedEx Severe Weather Update<br />
<br />
The severe weather resulting from Hurricane Irene that is bringing hazardous conditions across the East Coast is leaving difficult conditions and is affecting FedEx operations. Unavoidable service delays should be expected due to widespread power outages and local road conditions. FedEx is committed to providing service to the best of our ability in areas that can be safely accessed and where conditions have improved. We will continue to monitor the situation to minimize the impact on service. Please continue to check fedex.com for updates.<br />
<br />
FedEx Express<br />
Customers in the following states will be impacted by delays with package pickup and delivery operations:<br />
Connecticut, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina coastal areas, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Eastern Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Virginia, and Washington DC <br />
<br />
Additionally, facilities in Manteo, NC are closed and will not reopen until conditions are safe for pickup and delivery operations.<br />
<br />
FedEx Ground<br />
Customers in the following states will be impacted by delays with package pickup and delivery operations:<br />
Connecticut, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina coastal areas, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Eastern Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Virginia<br />
<br />
FedEx Freight<br />
Service delays should be expected throughout the following areas: <br />
Hartford, CT; New Haven, CT; Albany, NY; Newburgh, NY; Portland, ME; Avon, MA; Worcester, MA; West Worcester, MA; Providence, RI; Bellows Falls, VT<br />
<br />
FedEx Office<br />
We are currently assessing Center operations and will provide operational updates later this afternoon as information becomes available.<br />
<br />
FedEx Trade Networks<br />
The following locations are closed due to power outages:<br />
Baltimore, MD; Norfolk, VA<br />
<br />
Shipping to affected areas?<br />
To help avoid delays, we encourage you to contact your recipients to verify if their location is accepting shipments before and after the storm. In the event of evacuations, shipments not delivered before the storm will be secured in one of our facilities. Delivery will be attempted when it is safe to do so.<br />
<br />
Consistent with the provisions of the FedEx Service Guide, the money-back guarantee will not apply to FedEx® shipments affected by weather. Continue to check fedex.com for service updates. For specific shipment status information, please track your shipment at fedex.com. You can also contact FedEx Customer Service at 1.800.GoFedEx 1.800.463.3339.</span>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Shipping Tadpoles - Good practice ?]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 12:46:44 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[I'm not a big shipper...so...<br />
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Anyone have any thoughts as to if there is a much hgher mortality with tads. Even with "awesome" test tube packing, ect, I still have to think that tads are a HECK of a lot more fragile than shipping a well started froglet even.<br />
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It just stands to reason - some tadpoles are tricky to morph out even in stable conditions. Thumbnail tads can be problematic sometimes as well.<br />
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And then....<br />
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It just seems that some people are treating them as potentialy disposable - No guarantee on live arrival, but "I've shipped em before with no problems"  :roll: <br />
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Grow em up and then they are well started, no SLS ect. <br />
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As always (seems people NEED to see this "opinion disclaimer" lately).....just my .02. LOVE to hear other's thoughts on this practice.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I'm not a big shipper...so...<br />
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Anyone have any thoughts as to if there is a much hgher mortality with tads. Even with "awesome" test tube packing, ect, I still have to think that tads are a HECK of a lot more fragile than shipping a well started froglet even.<br />
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It just stands to reason - some tadpoles are tricky to morph out even in stable conditions. Thumbnail tads can be problematic sometimes as well.<br />
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And then....<br />
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It just seems that some people are treating them as potentialy disposable - No guarantee on live arrival, but "I've shipped em before with no problems"  :roll: <br />
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Grow em up and then they are well started, no SLS ect. <br />
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As always (seems people NEED to see this "opinion disclaimer" lately).....just my .02. LOVE to hear other's thoughts on this practice.]]></content:encoded>
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