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RichFrye Wrote:BIG, but not the biggest male. I assume these were Panama frogs/pums? And I assume you did not venture into the contigious area of 'El Dorado'/Bri Bri? What work were you doing? No we didnt get into the El Dorado/Bri Bri area.. i wish... we didnt actually spend to much time on the mainland most of our work was spent on Isla Colon. Ive gone down for two different projects, one a general study with JP lawrence, and the other a study on the Evolutionary science behind aposematic colorations, and predation with Justin Yeager.
the locals we have measured weights and SVL (snout to vent length) for include isla Bastimentos( the graveyard outside town, and salt creek), Solarte(hospital point), San Cristobal, Popa (North and South), Loma Partida, Aguacate, Uyama, Robalo, Valiente penninsula(very very similar to the Escudo morph), Cayo de Agua, Pastores, Pelican Key, Almerante, and Escudo de Veraguas.
and no.. no more guessing for me... hahaha it was fun to toss out random ideas but honestly I dont know it looks like a pumilio to me but from where? beats me.
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Kerickson978 Wrote:RichFrye Wrote:BIG, but not the biggest male. I assume these were Panama frogs/pums? And I assume you did not venture into the contigious area of 'El Dorado'/Bri Bri? What work were you doing? No we didnt get into the El Dorado/Bri Bri area.. i wish... we didnt actually spend to much time on the mainland most of our work was spent on Isla Colon. Ive gone down for two different projects, one a general study with JP lawrence, and the other a study on the Evolutionary science behind aposematic colorations, and predation with Justin Yeager.
the locals we have measured weights and SVL (snout to vent length) for include isla Bastimentos( the graveyard outside town, and salt creek), Solarte(hospital point), San Cristobal, Popa (North and South), Loma Partida, Aguacate, Uyama, Robalo, Valiente penninsula(very very similar to the Escudo morph), Cayo de Agua, Pastores, Pelican Key, Almerante, and Escudo de Veraguas.
and no.. no more guessing for me... hahaha it was fun to toss out random ideas but honestly I dont know it looks like a pumilio to me but from where? beats me.
What have been labeled 'El Dorado' (and all their multiple breeding populations) , Bri Bri (and all their multiple breeding populations), and Black Jeans all pretty much dwarf most of the Panama locales you mention measuring.
The male frog pictured is a Black Jean . Good guess Chris T.
I have visualy seen , both in person and pictures, many pics of 'El Dorado', 'Bri Bri' , Blue Jeans, and San Cristobal Island pums which could all have passed for clutch-mates of the pictured frog.
At 27mm vent to snout my largest Black male is a giant. I think the Black jeans may well deserve true reclassification.
Once again, this all revolves back to the fact you absolutely can not guess a frog into a pedigree.
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