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F/S -Todd Kelley line quinquevittatus
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i have 2 quinquevittatus which i acquired from Todd Kelley at nwff this past July. they are the original Todd Kelley line. both frogs have had two consecutive clean fecals from Dr. Frye, and have been in quarantine the whole time awaiting the third clean fecal(which they are due for next week.) i suspect that they are males, but do not know. $300 for both plus $50 shipping.
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#2

anyone know if this line is still being produced and available ?

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#3

good question....I think I have seen some in the last year.
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#4

I gave mine to a friend years ago. Mine never bred well at all and were always hidden. Not crazy about them.

Darts with parasites are analogous to mixed tanks, there are no known benefits to the frogs with either.


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RichFrye Wrote:I gave mine to a friend years ago. Mine never bred well at all and were always hidden. Not crazy about them.
I've heard that about the quinqs. I also heard that initially we were working with a very limited gene pool and that may have been the cause of some of the limited breeding. I wonder if the supplements we have now would have lessened the breeding challenges
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I' doubt supplements would change things up any , being that I use pretty much the same as I did back then with all my other frogs.
When my brother and myself got the quniqs they had very high loads of hook worms. At times frogs with high parasite loads can have effected reproductive organs.
Yes , the few that were given to them by the zoo were small in number, but I got mine almost ten years ago and I doubt they were more than F2 .

Darts with parasites are analogous to mixed tanks, there are no known benefits to the frogs with either.


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#7

Some folks out here are still breeding them pretty regularly. If only I had more room...
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#8

... Ray , what exactly makes these cool/unique/ brown frogs something to work with. Work with being a project where one has a group of frogs for a life-hood?

Darts with parasites are analogous to mixed tanks, there are no known benefits to the frogs with either.


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#9

Based on their unique behaviors? Obligates are nice, Rich, and I keep a few, but what I most enjoy about my little brown frogs (Ameerega, epipedobates, allobates, and even Mantella sp.) are their social behaviors, vocalizations, etc. I also find claims that certain species are somehow more shy than others to be specious. If given the proper enclosure even the notoriously "shy" species will be frequently visible, and nearly always audible.
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#10

Quinqs are hardly 'brown'....they have one of the 'coolest" orange/ yellow spotted legs of any Dart Frog.

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Philsuma Wrote:Quinqs are hardly 'brown'....they have one of the 'coolest" orange/ yellow spotted legs of any Dart Frog.

Agreed! I know two or three west coast people still producing them.
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stemcellular Wrote:Based on their unique behaviors? Obligates are nice, Rich, and I keep a few, but what I most enjoy about my little brown frogs (Ameerega, epipedobates, allobates, and even Mantella sp.) are their social behaviors, vocalizations, etc. I also find claims that certain species are somehow more shy than others to be specious. If given the proper enclosure even the notoriously "shy" species will be frequently visible, and nearly always audible.


And , what exactly do you like about quinqs..understanding that before you had worked with them...I had.
And I can go into what thumbs /quinqs used to be...

Darts with parasites are analogous to mixed tanks, there are no known benefits to the frogs with either.


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#13

Not sure I follow. From my interaction with them they are a neat species in the vivarium, not unlike castaneoticus or lugubris. Interesting behavior and vocalizations and a bit more challenging to breed on a frequent basis.
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stemcellular Wrote:Not sure I follow. From my interaction with them they are a neat species in the vivarium, not unlike castaneoticus or lugubris. Interesting behavior and vocalizations and a bit more challenging to breed on a frequent basis.
You do follow because you answered to everything other than the fact than I've probably worked, time-wise more than you...
I've found them lacking in most things Denrod -lovin.

Darts with parasites are analogous to mixed tanks, there are no known benefits to the frogs with either.


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BTW , not a casti fan either.

Darts with parasites are analogous to mixed tanks, there are no known benefits to the frogs with either.


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#16

Ah, well I clearly disagree.
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stemcellular Wrote:Ah, well I clearly disagree.

I'm not sure we do disagree.

Having worked with castis and quinqs and now neither (?) working with either...

which of either do you still keep as a project?

Darts with parasites are analogous to mixed tanks, there are no known benefits to the frogs with either.


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#18

please keep this to 'Todd Kelley" line quinqs...

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Philsuma Wrote:please keep this to 'Todd Kelley" line quinqs...

Other quinq lines are to be directed where exactly...

Darts with parasites are analogous to mixed tanks, there are no known benefits to the frogs with either.


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#20

...E.U. most timely smuggled?

Darts with parasites are analogous to mixed tanks, there are no known benefits to the frogs with either.


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