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Intermedius eggs - pics
#1
Hey

My Intermedius threw some more eggs. Hoping they take this time. She laid in the same white film can, only the can is tipped back and over the days built up water. I noticed tonight there are 2 eggs in the water. I have heard vents can lay in water, but will imi's do that and have the fertilization take? Its not that deep or anything, maybe a table spoon of water.

I plan to leave them to let the parents get some skills established.

Thx for any comments
Scott
Scott - North Dallas
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#2
Good news - the 2 eggs are now showing development. I will never know if they laid near the outer edge of the film can then the eggs were pushed into the water by the frogs, or if they managed to pull this off in slight submersion of water. Honestly, I am surprised they laid in this particular film can at all. This one was intended as a deposit site. I have black film cans tilted upside down as most recommend. I do see them enter the upside down cans, but they never lay eggs in them.
Scott - North Dallas
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#3
Update
Parents have a tad and I pulled the other.

Here is a pic of the one I pulled.
Scott - North Dallas
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#4
Forgot I had this pic of the female. She has a beautiful pattern "similar" to a copper head Fantasticus.
Scott - North Dallas
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#5
Love that imi Scott...really does look like a fant! I have 4 banded tads in the water right now (my first thumbs woohoo).
-Field Smith
Some frogs...
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#6
I love that pic! Very cool. Frog is beautiful too.
Lisa
In central NY

R. Imitator 'Cainarachi Valley' 2.3.0
R. Imitator 'Cainarachi Valley' Froglets 8 and counting.
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#7
Here is a pic of the tad being raised by the parents. This tad happens to be in the center of the Brom close to the top of the viv. I cleaned the glass and was able to snap this pic. Very cool to watch this guy "swim" around. I will try to get a pic of mom dropping an egg. I saw it last night but had not cleaned the glass so could not see very clear.

-Scott
Scott - North Dallas
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#8
Nice pics...very hard to get the tads to pose...
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#9
Ohhhh how cool now this is motivational!

So my ignorant understanding of PDF, they lay eggs than leave? but my non ignorant ( the subconscious) tells me that the frogs have to care for their babies from comments i had seen/read?

is there a post to answer my question? (is the parental behavior what i have seen on pictures a parent carrying a tad or a few on their backs?)

Best Regards
Juan
0.0.2 ‘Turquoise and Bronze’ D. Auratus (Michael Shrom line)
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#10
Hey Juan,
All will transport the tads to water once they hatch...for some that is the end of parental care, but some (Oophaga and some Ranitomeya) feed unfertilized eggs to their tads.
-Field
-Field Smith
Some frogs...
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#11
fieldsmith Wrote:Hey Juan,
All will transport the tads to water once they hatch...for some that is the end of parental care, but some (Oophaga and some Ranitomeya) feed unfertilized eggs to their tads.
-Field


I just watched the coolest Video.

Thanks Field.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTd_Z9a7 ... re=related
0.0.2 ‘Turquoise and Bronze’ D. Auratus (Michael Shrom line)
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#12
I put my new camera to use - got my you tube started - checkout this video of the intermedius Tad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7Cm4i8Upto
Scott - North Dallas
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#13
Very cool, Scott!
Glenn
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#14
Thanks for this Scott as Glen said very cool,many congrats as well.Please could you tell me what the brom is i know its a Neo,we have it, thanks and well done
Stu
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#15
Thanks Stu -
Sure bud, that is a "Zoe" - believe it or not I found it at the HomeDepot (our big chain store). Since its a brom its easier to clean, had no issues or concerns since. In fact have already gained 3 pups from the 2 orig plants I bought.

Regards
Scott
Scott - North Dallas
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#16
RanaVenenosa Wrote:Thanks Stu -
Sure bud, that is a "Zoe" - believe it or not I found it at the HomeDepot (our big chain store). Since its a brom its easier to clean, had no issues or concerns since. In fact have already gained 3 pups from the 2 orig plants I bought.

Regards
Scott
Thanks its one of our favourites,but not cheep here,its the best for water retention vase size vase size of our neos i think.Not cheep here though,we have quite a few of these now,nice brom.
nice little thread this Scott really enjoyed this with me lunch :lol thanks again
Stu:
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#17
Here is a pic of the tad I am raising (from a few days ago). He has more pattern now, but is also less willing to let me take his picture : )

The tad being reared by the parents seems to be maturing faster and already has clear pattern and front legs. Trying to get a pic, but not easy since he is in a brom axial.

Enjoy
Scott
Scott - North Dallas
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#18
Ok guys and gals

updated pics - although they are a week old

The tad I raised should come OOTW tomorrow - he has nice legs etc... He is about 2 weeks behind the parent raised, but is also 30% larger. I fed him expensive discus food and spririlua flakes.

As we speak I am observing my parent raised froglet hunting fauna on the background of the viv. He came out looking more like a banded imi (w his Zorro looking mask - black is more solid after a few days OOTW) than std intermedius.

Enjoy
Scott - North Dallas
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#19
Wow Scott, so cool to see the differences in development...beautiful froglet too!
-Field Smith
Some frogs...
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#20
Thx Field - yeah I have really enjoyed watching the progress btw both methods of rearing. I am sure the temp also had minor impact. I am guessing the viv temp was 1-3 degrees higher on avg than the empty 10gal w only glass lid and no light fixture.
Scott - North Dallas
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