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My tadpole setup
#1
Figured i would show off the azureus tadpole setup.
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Back legs on this guy
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A smaller tad hanging out by one of the air stones
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And coming out of the water
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Questions and comments welcomed!
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Casper
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#2
Is that a 10 gallon setup? How many tads is it able to support at a time? What types of plants are you using? Any water changes?

Thanks!
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#3
It is a 20 tall. I have had 20 tads in there at the same time, could probably support more but i stop pulling eggs at about that number.

Plants are java moss, ricca moss, duck weed and an earth star.

Don't do water changes, i just add more as it evaporates. And siphon out the gunk on the bottom every 3 months or so.


zachk Wrote:Is that a 10 gallon setup? How many tads is it able to support at a time? What types of plants are you using? Any water changes?

Thanks!
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Casper
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#4
You don't transfer them to a sloped grow-out when they pop fronts ?

Trying for a 'culling the weak' type thing ?
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#5
Nope, i wait till the tail is fully absorbed before i pull them. There is also a big piece of Malaysian drift wood in there, just hard too see with all the java moss. I haven't lost a tad/froglet yet with this setup, no sls, no missing toes either.

At 1st i figured i would have to have a glass lid to keep them from climbing the glass and escaping , but they won't climb over the lip of the tank.

When i came home from my week long trip to frog day, i had 4 that were out of water for 3+ days, they were all fat and eating stray flies that found their way in.

Philsuma Wrote:You don't transfer them to a sloped grow-out when they pop fronts ?

Trying for a 'culling the weak' type thing ?
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Casper
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#6
Nice!

I've been doing something similar to this with my P. vittatus this summer.
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#7
I also feed HEAVY the day before and 2 - 3 hours before i add new tads, otherwise the bigger tads will try to eat them... seen it happen 1 time, started feeding heavy and it hasn't happened again.
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Casper
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#8
What are you feeding, Casper?
Glenn
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#9
Tropical fish flakes, blood worms and duckweed.
They destroy the duckweed, due to the high protein content.

Duckweed is an amazing plant, some very good info here

http://opensourceecology.org/wiki/Duckweed

frogfreak Wrote:What are you feeding, Casper?
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Casper
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#10
Have you ever reared azureus tads by themselves in small tad cups? If so, have you noticed a difference in the size/growth rate of the tads and newly morphed froglets using this system?
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#11
At first i raised the tads in cups, 1st one i had come out of water had sls. 3 days later i put them in this setup, so i cannot say that i have seen a difference. But it did seem like they developed faster in the 20 g.


randommind Wrote:Have you ever reared azureus tads by themselves in small tad cups? If so, have you noticed a difference in the size/growth rate of the tads and newly morphed froglets using this system?
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Casper
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#12
Are you using the air stone(s) 24/7? What rate are you using?

I wanted to add, to your comment on development in communal vs. individual rearing, that I've noticed the same thing. My communally raised tads are OOW about 10 days earlier and are much more robust upon leaving the water.
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#13
Air stones (2) are on the same timer as the lights. I will check the rate when i get home.


zachk Wrote:Are you using the air stone(s) 24/7? What rate are you using?

I wanted to add, to your comment on development in communal vs. individual rearing, that I've noticed the same thing. My communally raised tads are OOW about 10 days earlier and are much more robust upon leaving the water.
What some see as death, others see as beauty.


Casper
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#14
The air pump is a Top Fin air-3,000 .
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Casper
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#15
Another one that will be out of water in a couple days.
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After i took the above pic he decided to swim down and watch a two week old tad munch on a tropical fish flake.
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Casper
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#16
What is the water temp? do you heat it or is it ambient air temp controlling it? if so what temp is the room?
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#17
cablemandan Wrote:What is the water temp? do you heat it or is it ambient air temp controlling it? if so what temp is the room?

Id really like to know these answers as well as what you do for water changes?

Really cool setup, im definitely going to do something like this one day. Just need to find more damn room and i just bought a new rack a few days ago!!!!
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#18
No heater, frog room temps are 75° - 80°

I don't really do water changes, just syphon out the muck on the bottom once every 3 months or so.
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Casper
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#19
I don't have the ability to have a frog room as of yet. A few more years I can kick my kids to the curb to make room for frogs haha. Could you do a water temp measurement and let me know the range? I will have to heat mine I think. I keep the house @ 71 and the tank lighting holds it at 78 with a 5 degree swing overnight. If anyone thinks this would be ok, I really want to set up something like this but want to make sure I can maintain stable temps. Water tanks heat and cool differently than viv's I think, so maybe a heater would not be needed with lighting and enclosed.
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#20
Casper- Do you use this type of tad setup for any other frogs, or just for the azureus?
P. Terribilis orange, R. Imitator Cainarachi Valley, D. Leucomelas, D. Auratus, D. Azureus, P. vittatus, D. cobalts, D.Oyapok, Bombina Orientalis
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