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Not to my knowledge. Im going to be checking around again soon for alot of stuff so maybe Ill include those 2 in my wishlist.

Todd

Todd S. Wrote:Not to my knowledge. Im going to be checking around again soon for alot of stuff so maybe Ill include those 2 in my wishlist.

Todd

Definitly include them Todd,i think the Equcador of the slowest growing,the one from Columbia is much smaller of leaf then straight pumilla and also slower growing,but otherwise much the same as pumilla.I would say its pumilla suited for a dart viv. Ithink the straight form is just to rampant for all but the biggest viv,just my opinion ,those needing a quick fix,pumilla is the plant,
Stu

Lady Bullseye Wrote:Gorgeous Stu! Frogs and viv!

Thanks Lisa,nice to see a new face here on our little room thread,i kinda put the auratus tank up for you... re your fern thread,thought it might give you some ideas,as there is so many ferns in this tank,that and the fact that i'm really surprised at how much it has changed in around 3 months,cool you found it
Stu

I'm always happy to see new posts come up from this thread, been watching it since I joined Smile

Yes, I took note of the ferns and thought it must be one that you were mentioning in the fern thread. That is exactly the thing I was picturing when asking about it too!

Lady Bullseye Wrote:I'm always happy to see new posts come up from this thread, been watching it since I joined
Yes, I took note of the ferns and thought it must be one that you were mentioning in the fern thread. That is exactly the thing I was picturing when asking about it too!

Ahh thats cool thankyou, Lisa i never really took much notice of ferns and wasn't really struck on them even when working with them,but i love them in a viv,they just look right to me,maybe they wouldn't if i'd walked where these frogs live,i don't really know. I'm a great fan of green and brown in our vivs,which is strange because i love colourful plants,but in a viv i'm being drawn more to green and brown as the main colours. When i sit staring at rainforest pics those are the predominant colours i see,so i guess i'm being drawn to that. The other thing i think is that i want the colours of the darts to really stand out,and be the stars of the show.But its strange because i adore all the amazing broms especially Neo's,i just don't feel the same about putting them in our vivs,i almost feel like i lose something,weird huh
Stu

I totally agree Stu...green plants and brown backgrounds/leaf litter is my preference too. Not only does it seem more "rain-foresty" but it makes the colorful frogs stand out much more. I would rather have "boring" plants and have the frogs the center of attention, than have to look all through the tank for the frogs, all the while getting distracted by brightly-colored plants. I think the plants and hardscaping should serve as the frame for the picture, not the focal-point (that's what the frogs are for).

fieldsmith Wrote:I totally agree Stu...green plants and brown backgrounds/leaf litter is my preference too. Not only does it seem more "rain-foresty" but it makes the colorful frogs stand out much more. I would rather have "boring" plants and have the frogs the center of attention, than have to look all through the tank for the frogs, all the while getting distracted by brightly-colored plants. I think the plants and hardscaping should serve as the frame for the picture, not the focal-point (that's what the frogs are for).

Nicely put,Field, our first frogs were our luecs,when i actually was able to see how,they utilise the leaflitter i was sold,don't get me wrong though i like the plants,just don't want the viv too blousey...colourful. What does become more important with this way of thinking i guess, is the actual leaf shape/shade of green,as contrasts to other plants,without distracting the eye from those stunning frogs,
be lucky mate
Stu

I agree, at one point I was all about seeing how many different plants I could get in one viv but over the years Ive calmed down alot. Also noticed that I seem to go with alot of plants with interested leaf shapes and maybe only 1 plant in each viv has a flashy pattern. the rest are either greens, browns, or just dark burgundy.

Todd

Todd S. Wrote:I agree, at one point I was all about seeing how many different plants I could get in one viv but over the years Ive calmed down alot. Also noticed that I seem to go with alot of plants with interested leaf shapes and maybe only 1 plant in each viv has a flashy pattern. the rest are either greens, browns, or just dark burgundy.

Todd

Said in his best pirate's voice "looks like we have an accord lads...aye" :lol: I think that the planting is also one of my favourite bits of the whole hobby after dwelling on the background staring at pics making it,the planting is always a treat.
Todd have you grown margravia,do you know how to make it bush,or is its habit to just grow as one long trailing stem?I'm guessing that my stock plant is simply made up of multiple cuttings,i've tried taking out the growing tip but always get one shoot as opposed to the hoped for multiple shoots.
Here guys, we now have just in the last hour taken our first 2 attachibakka tads and popped them in water..... we now breed tincs. Its fanastic to see all the little differences between the different tads,though i'm having to be discipined now as the luecs tinc and auratus are so similar,i can just about tell them apart at d/o but for how much longer,who knows.
We are damn happy bunnies
regards
Stu and Shaz

We now have a breeding group of panama special auratus.Confirmed fertile by the developing eggs.so even with a horrendous day at work in what is meant to be my holiday i still have a BIG smile on my face,and a nice group of 6 attchibakka too,all laid just before christmas.Still shocked by how big the attachibakka eggs are,so now all we have to do is get them to the same size as mum and dad,thats the bit that will separate the men from the boys,kinda wishing it wasn't winter at the moment so the full plethera of wild grub was on the menu for them.
STOKED
Stu

Wasn't sure whether to just call this tintasic or just say for Glen and Todd Big Grin

so hell we'll do both
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and one of many 3l dwarf white cultures oak and beech leaflitter rotten plum wood, feed readybreak andpinch of fishflake
keep warm not too wet ...sorted
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happy new year to everyone
seeya
Stu

Haha

We love our Tincs, Stu!

Let me see if I can get this right... The first three pics are:

1. Citronella

2. Matecho Could be G.O. but I'm sticking with Matecho

3. Yellowback

What do I win? What do I win??? :lol:

frogfreak Wrote:Haha

We love our Tincs, Stu!

Let me see if I can get this right... The first three pics are:

1. Citronella

2. Matecho Could be G.O. but I'm sticking with Matecho

3. Yellowback

What do I win? What do I win??? :lol:

Apologies for this i clicked the wrong button the edited and i suspect forgot to save the changes...DOH
cheers for the heads up mate
pics are
citronella matcheto male machetos female whom is way darker than the male mt attachibakka male, another of the female macheto and finally our attchi female(whom appears to be half bulldozer :lol: ) she is huge. Glen tell me are your tinc eggs real big or do you suspect her egg size is because of her huge frame. only the attachis are old enough to breed yet the other 2 prs are still big kids.
Finally Glen you actually have won prizes for most tidy and impressive bugroom Big Grin

and kindest most helpful Canadian frogger :lol: we would hope that during your exceptance speech there will be no tears :roll: :lol: :lol:
best and apologies for the misshap
Stu

Thanks for the laugh, Stu! :lol:

From my experience, the bigger the frog the bigger the egg. I also get smaller eggs from new layers and they get bigger with age. She is a massive frog, so I would expect BIG eggs! Could we get a pic of her beside a looney? I'll mail you one. Tongue

:lol:

frogfreak Wrote:Thanks for the laugh, Stu! :lol:

From my experience, the bigger the frog the bigger the egg. I also get smaller eggs from new layers and they get bigger with age. She is a massive frog, so I would expect BIG eggs! Could we get a pic of her beside a looney? I'll mail you one. :lol:

No worries about the looney one here already,unfortunately he's camera shy..... we're not good together are we mate.
i'll try and behave, thanks for the knowledge on the eggs all makes sense,i wondered if it was an individual thing or a character of species,so sort of both i don't yet have enough laying to be sure but the mystie eggs are always smaller than the auratus which lead to me posing the above Q.Glen i really wish we had all our wild stuff on the menu for these tinc tads but i guess that will come with later hatches,curious as to whether that might lead me towards our much talked about questing for similar size to parent (especially with tinc),the superblues are on for being as big if not bigger than parents so as always musing quietly. Somewhere you wrote about putting 'em on a leash,which still makes me smile,thats the goal.Todd's thoughts on not breeding too early also may well be part of this and maybe rearing viv/tub size too,amongst all my other froggy challanges i ponder on this one alot.But thinking if i can get as much live varied wild stuff in them early which the have to hunt so getting exercise plus no deteriation of food quality cause its still on the hoof as it were,...well ya know what i'm rambling about
seeya
Stu

It is unlikely,that we will ever walk where our frogs do,so we study pics ask folks and use abit of imagination to try as best we can to knock up cool challenging homes for our frogs.Shaz and i live in the middle of England around acouple of miles from the cotswold escarpment,deep in the wolds is a little magical valley,on a windy day this place is still,one a hot day its cool,this place inspires us.The strange set of conditions that govern this valley make it like no woodland here i know,this is most definately not typical UK woodland in any sense of the word.These pics were taken on new years eve on a grey old day,so have a look and maybe you'll see what i see...maybe not :lol:
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Acouple of pics of polypodium vulgare growing almost epiphytically,note the second pic thats around 15 -20 ' up
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cool huh
Stu

Wow you lot are hard to inspire!! :roll:
ok the caption might read "love is",could also be "shut up,we are not fat just big boned"
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and as we just couldn't resist this oppurtunity we'll title this next lot "for a friend" he knows who he is i suspect, he misses them

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well if that hasn't put some spots before your eyes nothing will,
thanks to another guy over on your side of the pond for going out of his way to teach us more about all this froggy stuff,testing testing! :lol:
cheers dude
Stu

That valley is incredible! It looks far more tropical then temperate. Is that where you get all your mosses from guys?

Nice frog pics too!

Excellent pics Stu ! I'm interested in "odd" geography myself, and that vale does seem worthy of study. Who knows what creatures reside therein ? You're a little "southeast" for Leprechauns, and a little due south for large black dogs / cats and wolves but hey...who knows. Don't ever forget your camera.

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