Tesoros de Columbia -new frogs offered !

[Roadrunner]

Well then why don't you ask instead of SPECULATING. Because right now SPECULATING and jumping to conclusions seems to be the business of this website.

oh I dunno Glenn...finding out what's going on in the hobby IS our business. The business of this forum anyway.

[Roadrunner]

And Mark was very telling in that you had to contact WIKIRI(completely different org from both UE AND Tesoros.

We tried that with the Paru import...email...info...didn't get too far. Let me see who I can contact.

[Roadrunner]

They gave you the answers they had. They are their own morph, however that came to be. You could have simply let that lie but chose to excoriate them for not measuring up to your standards. They were a "morph" of frogs by a sustainable breeding project that worked towards conservation. What more did you need to know? They weren't to be bred to any other morphs, period. This thread is about Tesoros, not Wikiri.

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BTW, information on the Paru has been presented...just because the info isn't what everyone wants to hear doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

To be more than fair, very limited information was presented with the now ending Paru Sylvatica project .
When many more questions came up than were answered we were told to contact WIRIKI where we were answered with total silence.
This can easily be cited here on DD.
I await the studies being done...

[Armson]

Frogfarm is on a tear today!

[RichFrye]

. This thread is about Tesoros, not Wikiri.

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BTW, information on the Paru has been presented...just because the info isn't what everyone wants to hear doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

To be more than fair, very limited information was presented with the now ending Paru Sylvatica project .
When many more questions came up than were answered we were told to contact WIRIKI where we were answered with total silence.
This can easily be cited here on DD.
I await the studies being done...

Aaron, you are the person who brought up WIRIKI twice in the last two posts.
Unfortunately when the same people are involved with two totally different businesses those two businesses are bound to be compared...
I am FAR from the only person who found many answers lacking or not answered at all by WIRIKI.

[Roadrunner]

And you and Phil are the only 2 that can't seem to let it lie. I merely responded to your posts. Again, not answered to your liking.

[RichFrye]

And you and Phil are the only 2 that can't seem to let it lie. I merely responded to your posts. Again, not answered to your liking.

Aaron, if it is a great thing, why would anyone want to "let it drop"? Sing the praises unquestioned to everyone . Be proud.
I don't bump two year old threads BTW, but any of us could. There is a common denominator with these two businesses though, and that is current fact.

[Philsuma]

If I had an export business for Dart Frogs, I would be SURE to reach my target market effectively and efficiently. The EXACT way to do that, would be to have someone post COPIOUS amounts of information on DD and DB. This would include pics as well.

This has not happened to date. There has been SOME information, but not nearly enough. There will always be proponents of those organizations saying 'you got plenty of info, sit down and be quiet and enjoy whatever we decide to provide you"

I'm someone who will not be satisfied with that approach. Ever.

We had a couple posts by Mark P. and Chris S. and that's about it.

All we are left with , is to glean relative hobby info from any source we can, in an attempt to better understand what's going on. It's all we have currently.

[Roadrunner]

Your post about the Paru was from 2 days ago. The common denominator with the 2 business' are that they are conserving habitat. The "hobby"(which hobbies don't talk about "cornering the market" Phil, not u) finally got 2 "strait from the rainforest conservation oriented projects that can supply f1 diversity indefinitely" and this is how they end up. It's pretty frustrating that they are questioned so when they are finally providing the hobby with, at least what I dreamed of and they ain't doin so well.

And you and Phil are the only 2 that can't seem to let it lie. I merely responded to your posts. Again, not answered to your liking.

Aaron, if it is a great thing, why would anyone want to "let it drop"? Sing the praises unquestioned to everyone . Be proud.
I don't bump two year old threads BTW, but any of us could. There is a common denominator with these two businesses though, and that is current fact.

[Roadrunner]

You should do that Phil. Go to another country and deal with their 3rd world infrastructure while trying to conserve some of the ecosystem and market frogs to the French.
Can't they provide that info and pics on their website?

If I had an export business for Dart Frogs, I would be SURE to reach my target market effectively and efficiently. The EXACT way to do that, would be to have someone post COPIOUS amounts of information on DD and DB. This would include pics as well.

This has not happened to date. There has been SOME information, but not nearly enough. There will always be proponents of those organizations saying 'you got plenty of info, sit down and be quiet and enjoy whatever we decide to provide you"

I'm someone who will not be satisfied with that approach. Ever.

We had a couple posts by Mark P. and Chris S. and that's about it.

All we are left with , is to glean relative hobby info from any source we can, in an attempt to better understand what's going on. It's all we have currently.

[RichFrye]

If you want to pick nits, Goods was the one who brought up Parus. And who cares?
How exactly are 'they 'ending up and who exactly is to credit or blame for their business ventures?

Your post about the Paru was from 2 days ago. The common denominator with the 2 business' are that they are conserving habitat. The "hobby"(which hobbies don't talk about "cornering the market" Phil, not u) finally got 2 "strait from the rainforest conservation oriented projects that can supply f1 diversity indefinitely" and this is how they end up. It's pretty frustrating that they are questioned so when they are finally providing the hobby with, at least what I dreamed of and they ain't doin so well.

And you and Phil are the only 2 that can't seem to let it lie. I merely responded to your posts. Again, not answered to your liking.

Aaron, if it is a great thing, why would anyone want to "let it drop"? Sing the praises unquestioned to everyone . Be proud.
I don't bump two year old threads BTW, but any of us could. There is a common denominator with these two businesses though, and that is current fact.

[RichFrye]

Here is what a number of people are trying to convey.
If there is not as much interest as expected or hoped then those involved directly with the project need to be directly involved with the hobbyists by being more public with information.
It really is that simple.

[Philsuma]

Central and South American Countries are not third world. Peru and Colombia are very nice places to live by most people's standards. They have very good infrastructure and wireless data carriers and transfers.

[Roadrunner]

Really?
That simple huh?

Here is what a number of people are trying to convey.
If there is not as much interest as expected or hoped then those involved directly with the project need to be directly involved with the hobbyists by being more public with information.
It really is that simple.

[Roadrunner]

Great, let me know when you start.

Central and South American Countries are not third world. Peru and Colombia are very nice places to live by most people's standards. They have very good infrastructure and wireless data carriers and transfers.

[RichFrye]

Really?
That simple huh?

Here is what a number of people are trying to convey.
If there is not as much interest as expected or hoped then those involved directly with the project need to be directly involved with the hobbyists by being more public with information.
It really is that simple.

The sentiment I am trying to convey is, yes.
I don' t hear a word of woe from those involved, so everything must be OK.
If everything is not OK, do something about it. Something would be free marketing on a forum or two.
Simple and free.

[goods]

If you want to pick nits, Goods was the one who brought up Parus.

Actually, Phil brought up the Paru.

[RichFrye]

If you want to pick nits, Goods was the one who brought up Parus.

Actually, Phil brought up the Paru.

Ok then.
Who's on first?

[Philsuma]

Great, let me know when you start.

Central and South American Countries are not third world. Peru and Colombia are very nice places to live by most people's standards. They have very good infrastructure and wireless data carriers and transfers.

I'm not the one that want's to start an export business...

I'm all too aware of the bad U.S economy right now and it's impact on luxury spending -i.e exotic animals. Now is not good timing, especially on a medium to large scale.

[Philsuma]

Crowdsourcing = excellent small start-up and prelude to a larger effort.

Great Idea !

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